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The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Sudbury (Suffolk, England) transmitter. Click to recheck

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The symbol shows the location of the Sudbury (Suffolk, England) transmitter which serves 440,000 homes.

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Is the transmitter output the same in all directions?

Radiation patterns withheld

What do the colours on the map mean?

The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.


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Which Freeview channels does the Sudbury transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxAerial positionFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 horizontal max
C44 (658.0MHz)229m64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One East, 2 BBC Two England, 7 BBC Three, 9 BBC Four, 70 CBBC Channel, 71 CBeebies, 80 BBC News, 81 BBC Parliament, 301 BBC Red Button 1, plus 12 others

PSB2
D3+4
 horizontal max
C41 (634.0MHz)229m64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV (Anglia (East micro region)), 4 Channel 4 South ads, 5 Channel 5 Part Network ads, 6 ITV 2, 13 Channel 4+1 South ads, 14 More 4, 28 E4, 33 ITV +1 (Anglia east),

PSB3
BBCB
 horizontal max
C47 (682.0MHz)229m256QAM 32KE 2/3
40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
100,000W
Channel icons
101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Meridian Southampton), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 303 BBC Red Button HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 horizontal max
C58 (770.0MHz)186m64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
10 ITV 3, 20 G.O.L.D. (not free), 25 Dave ja vu, 26 Home (not free), 27 ITV 2 +1, 30 5*, 31 5USA, 34 ESPN UK (not free), 38 Quest, 39 The Zone, 44 Channel 5 +1, 72 CITV, plus 21 others

COM5
ArqA
 horizontal max
C60- (785.8MHz)228m64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
11 PICK TV, 12 Dave, 17 Really, 29 E4+1, 32 Movie Mix, 46 Challenge, 48 Food Network, 82 Sky News, 87 Community Channel, 302 BBC Red Button 2, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 horizontal max
C56 (754.0MHz)228m64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
15 Film 4, 18 4Music, 19 Yesterday, 21 VIVA, 24 ITV 4, 41 Sky Sports 1 (not free), 42 Sky Sports 2 (not free), 47 4seven, 83 Al Jazeera English, 85 RT English , plus 22 others



Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Sudbury transmitter?


BBC Look East (East) 0.8m homes 3.2%
from Norwich NR2 1BH, 77km north-northeast
to BBC East region - 27 masts.
70% of BBC East (East) and BBC East (West) is shared output

ITV Anglia News 0.8m homes 3.2%
from NORWICH NR1 3JG, 78km north-northeast
to ITV Anglia (East) region - 26 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 80% evening news is shared with Anglia (West)

Are there any self-help relays?

Felixstowe WestTransposer1000 homes +1000 or more homes due to expansion of affected area?
WithamTransposer14 km NE Chelmsford.118 homes

How will the Sudbury (Suffolk, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

years1984-971997-981998-20112011-132013-182013-18
aerial groupB EB EEEEW
600C31com7
C35C5C5
C37com8
C39B
C41ITVITVITVD3+4D3+4D3+4
C44BBC2BBC2BBC2BBCABBCABBCA
C47C4C4C4BBCBBBCBBBCB
C48+A
700C49+1
C50+D
C51BBC1BBC1BBC1
C54C
C56ArqBArqBArqB
C58SDNSDNSDN
C60-ArqA-ArqA-ArqA
800C682

orange background for multiplexes names moregreen background for transmission frequencieslilac background for power levels in watts800MHz band: 4G mobile to start in 2013700MHz band: possible 4G in 2019 more600MHz band: new or moved digital TV services more
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W
Italics for analogue, digital switchover was Wednesdays 6th July and 20th July 2011.

  • COM7, COM8 projected for 2013-16. COM7 and COM8 to operate as Sudbury, Tacolneston SFN.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 250kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, com7, com8, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-4dB) 100kW
Analogue 5(-7dB) 50kW
Mux 2*(-14.9dB) 8.1kW
Mux B*(-15.2dB) 7.5kW
Mux 1*(-15.5dB) 7kW
Mux A*(-17dB) 5kW
Mux C*(-22.2dB) 1.5kW
Mux D*(-23.6dB) 1.1kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Sudbury transmitter area

Oct 1959-Feb 2004Anglia Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Sudbury was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.


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Nick
Wednesday 4 July 2012 4:00PM Aldeburgh
Thanks Mark,
I will give Sudbury a few days and see if it settles down, otherwise I think Tacolneston is worth a try. I understand since going digital it has a higher mast and coverage, Aldeburgh is no good, not even got ITV 3.
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Nick
Wednesday 4 July 2012 6:56PM Aldeburgh
Please would someone explain what is meant by 'line of sight' re tv transmissions? Presumably this does not mean that with sufficient magnification we could see the transmitter. I ask as Dave kindly said from my location Dover was 66 miles, line of sight. Apart from North Kent, there is just sea between here and Dover, and the curvature of the earth means there is a huge wall of water between.
Incidentally, it was only in summer I could get good analogue from Dover, with C4 particularly unwatchable in winter, so guess I am currently getting some help to get all digital channels. In winter the signal could vary significantly minute to minute, sea mist being suggested as the cause. Thanks.
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Russell Battle
Wednesday 4 July 2012 7:30PM
Had new high gain aerial fitted yesterday. All the channels are back. Had to do a complete new auto tune to get them back all is good now. I tried to add new channels first, no good.
Les Nicol
Wednesday 4 July 2012 7:46PM
Nick - Line of sight in simple terms means that you have no immediate obstruction i.e. Trees, Buildings, Ground terrain obstuctive issues that may impede the digital signal coming to your TV via your TV aerial from the transmitter. Unlike the analgue transmissions the digital transmission is precise similar to that received by satellite to a satellite dish. If you have an unobstructive clear line of sight to the tramsmitter and everything locally in terms of your aerial, connectivity etc should see you free of any recxeption issues. Satellite reception can be a little bit more problamatic in certain weather conditions extreme heavy rain or snow build up on the LNB - the item that's seen on the end of the dish boom arm. In this scenario it's a case of usually a brief or interrupted signal signal.
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Nick
Wednesday 4 July 2012 8:17PM Aldeburgh
Thanks Les, but what about all that sea? I can't see beyond a few miles from my upstairs window which overlooks Dover, theoretically, nor can my aerial, because of the curvature of the earth giving me 60 odd miles of deep water in the way.
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Nick
Wednesday 4 July 2012 8:24PM Aldeburgh
Why is it that the info, top, is out of date re xmitter power/frequencies, yet there is a seemingly current message about xmitter works?
On the other page about Sudbury switchover it says xmitter works from 18 June for a week, so how do we know if they have finished?
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Mark Fletcher
Thursday 5 July 2012 1:11AM Halifax
Nick,Aldeburgh.Oddly enough i did mention in my text on Wednesday 27 June 2012,1.40pm then on my hols in St Annes on Sea,Lancashire in my first paragraph that the Sudbury page requires updating due to the COM multiplexes increasing in strength to 100kw apiece,albeit i forgot to mention the change in frequencies back then.
Im sure Briantist the owner of this ever valuable and useful website will ultimately update this page in due course once he catches up with the Sudbury pages,after all he is a very busy man assisting us all.
Les Nicol
Thursday 5 July 2012 6:55AM
Nick - The sea shouldn't make any difference it's the transmitter coverage - whether it's a main or relay transmitter and their respective outputs. In most cases an existing aerial should suffice, but if your on the fringes of a transmitter(s) you may well need to consider if a particular aerial, cabling etc is up to the job. Alternaitvely as in my area Low Powered Relay transmitters and ground terrain and obstruction issues often dictate the installation of "Freesat" service over "Freeview".



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david
Thursday 5 July 2012 8:14AM Eye
could someone update the transmitter power info etc. - it is STILL showing the pre-DSO levels
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Nick
Thursday 5 July 2012 8:46AM Aldeburgh
Thanks Mark.
Les, I am afraid I still do not follow your reasoning about the sea. I have a shed at the bottom of my garden where I play about with tellies. I cannot get my local transmitter, Sudbury, as there is a tree in the neighbour's garden.
I can, however, get Dover as it comes from a different direction with no tree in the way. There is, however, a wall of sea, probably 50 miles thick due to the curvature of the earth between here and Dover 66 miles away.
What is the difference between that tree and the wall of water?
Dave Lindsay
Thursday 5 July 2012 9:43AM
Nick: I used Megalithia to plot the terrain between you and Dover:


Terrain between ( m a.g.l.) and (antenna m a.g.l.) - Optimising UK DTT Freeview and Radio aerial location


The curvature of the Earth would appear to be exagerated which is what I've experienced with Megalithia before over such long distances. What I did then was click the link below the plot to view the map between the two points.

I then found the co-ordinates for the point on the Kent coast where the signal path line intersects; this is at Birchington.

A plot from Dover to this point shows that there is clear line of sight:


Terrain between ( m a.g.l.) and (antenna m a.g.l.) - Optimising UK DTT Freeview and Radio aerial location


Unless there is any obstruction between your house and the coast, then this would appear to suggest that you do have line of sight to the top of the Dover mast.

The curvature of the Earth is said to be 8 inches per mile. This works out as 13.4 metres over the 66 miles.
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Nick
Thursday 5 July 2012 10:08AM Aldeburgh
Dave, you are a mine of information.
But why is it when I look out of my window over the sea, I can only see ships, say, 10 miles out at most before the sky meets the sea? Are you saying that if my upstairs window was only 13 metres higher I could technically see Dover?
What effect do you think a sudden sea mist has? Is it like the tree in the neighbour's garden?
When Dover was analogue the picture could go from strong to almost imperceptible in minutes.
Dave Lindsay
Thursday 5 July 2012 12:41PM
Nick: The horizon is where the ground or sea "meets" the sky. There can be things on the horizon which are effectively "protruding" from the horizon.

Imagine if, after having gone over the horizon, the ship were to sprout a tall mast and fly a flag on it. The height of the flag may be visible over the horizon, even though the ship itself is not visible owing to the curvature of the earth.

The same appears to be true of the top of the Dover mast. Whilst it may not be possible to see it due the air not being clear, there is no land (hill) or other object inbetween it and you when on the top of your house.

It could be that the Kent coastline, and even the high ground on which the transmitter sits, is over the horizon (from your vantage point), but the top of the mast is not.


Visible light is also carried as electromagnetic waves. If you're driving your car at night you have the headlights on and they shine into the distance and on to objects which reflects the light back to you.

The more the mist and fog set in, the more difficult it is to see the objects. Headlights in dense fog result in illuminating the water droplets. The light becomes much more of a "ball" in front of you than a beam shining afar.

Conversely, other drivers see nothing of the radiated light until they are close. This is because the light is no longer travelling as far as it does when visibility is clear.

And so, I imagine that TV reception is much the same. The almost sudden loss of signal is probably down to a sudden mist moving in. The signal is travelling over the sea for over 40 miles.

Imagine what it would be like to look out from the top of the transmitter and see the signal being radiated. On a clear day, the signal will travel and objects a long way away will be visible in the "light" of the signal. When the mist comes in, the electromatnetic energy will end up getting "caught" in the droplets. What will be seen is the "light" reflecting back from the droplets. Those who can normally receive the signal will find that they get nothing or much less "light" than they normally do.

This suggests that you may not have stable reception of the COMs from Dover after all. You may have to listen to the Shipping Forecast to find out whether your viewing may be affected.
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Nick
Thursday 5 July 2012 2:12PM Aldeburgh
You are a treasure, Dave.
I wonder why you differentiate the coms, though.
I suppose the fact that the atmosphere in winter is just plain damp also reduces the signal.
I had thought that my current good reception was similar to the fact that those blessed Dutchmen mess us about in summer, ie atmospherics, but presumably not so. I just get a good signal in its own right, with it reduced due to moisture.
I suppose if I play about trying to get an inland xmitter such as Tacolneston I will be less affected by mist etc. To think, you have given me all this time when all these problems might be caused by men playing with the Sudbury xmitter, who knows if they are or if they have finished.
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Robert B
Thursday 5 July 2012 3:58PM
When I checked my signal strength for Sudbury this morning channels: 56, 58 and 60 all come through as 92%. Hope it helps Nick.
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John Stone
Thursday 5 July 2012 4:51PM Hockley
Hi, have been waiting a long time for the power to go up on the 3 commercial mux's from Sudbury, when finally they did last Wednesday the signals were lower than I expected. UHF channel's 56 and 58 were only 30% signal strength but 100% quality and channel 60 was only 10% signal strength and 10% quality (no picture).When I checked yesterday all 3 were up to 55% signal strength and 100% quality. Was there a delay in turning the wick up. The other mux's I'm receiving from Rouncfall at 100%.
John.
Hockley, SS5 4JN
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Mark Fletcher
Thursday 5 July 2012 5:04PM Halifax
John Stone.Hockley,SS5 4JN.Are you still using a group B (yellow tipped) diplexed aerial for the COM multiplexes from Sudbury itself.That could be the answer to your predicament as such.If it is you will have to either change the group B aerial for a group C/D green tipped aerial,or group E brown tipped semi-wideband aerial for the diplexed part of your horizontally polarised aerial aimed at Sudbury for the SDN,ArqA and ArqB commercial multiplexes.
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Nick
Thursday 5 July 2012 5:34PM Aldeburgh
Thanks Robert, but where are you, roughly, as that makes all the difference to reception?
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Robert B
Friday 6 July 2012 3:59PM
Nick I'm at Kesgrave, Nr Ipswich. So receiving good quality signal as predicted from Sudbury. I hope you get get something worth watching soon.
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John
Saturday 7 July 2012 1:44PM
Hi all, anyone got any info. On what the new transmitter power outputs will be after 20th July

Hopefully the weak Mux's, com5 /6 will be higher?
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Pete Green
Saturday 7 July 2012 8:53PM
John.

All the channels now 100kw. The 20th of July at the top of this page was last year.
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Norm De Plume
Saturday 7 July 2012 9:56PM
@John - the weak muxes moved channels on 27th June. The reason you can't receive them now is because they aren't there any more.

A retune should have you sorted.
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Steve P
Sunday 8 July 2012 12:32PM
Why are some of the channels shown here out of date (for a few weeks now)? Someone should update them. ITV3 is on C58, for example.
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Nick
Sunday 8 July 2012 5:54PM Aldeburgh
Thanks Robert, still missing many channels, a friend tells me they are still playing for another week.
Dale
Sunday 8 July 2012 7:44PM Ipswich
Have noticed that there is an interruption every day at 3.29 p.m. It only lasts a few seconds but is at exactly the same time each day for the last few days. Not sure if it is every MUX as have been on BBC1/2 for the tennis every time!
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John Snowden
Monday 9 July 2012 3:46PM
Hi
Just a quick ask? I retuned my mother in laws tv today she is in Gosfield Essex, total channels 24 tv on digital, 11 radio, and 3 data, lots missing, is there a reason for this, retuned it 3 times as it seemed that so many were not there, anyone enlighten me, is that what we are ending up with, or does it need retuning again at a later date.
Dave Lindsay
Monday 9 July 2012 4:05PM
John Snowden: Perhaps the problem is a Group B aerial which needs replacing. See this posting I made on this point in relation to the Sudbury transmitter:

www.ukfree.tv link icon Freeview reception - all about aerials | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice
Dave Lindsay
Monday 9 July 2012 4:13PM
John Snowden: Also see above postings. It "may" be that Sudbury is not in its final state and therefore it might be worth waiting a little longer before replacing the aerial.
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Nick
Monday 9 July 2012 8:14PM Aldeburgh
I notice there is no mention now of engineering, but still minus Challenge.
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Nick
Tuesday 10 July 2012 9:14AM Aldeburgh
Please would some kind person give me a possible explanation as to why I cannnot receive anything from the mux on ch 60?
I get 100% from ch 58, and cannot see why just two channels higher there is not even a weak signal. Granted the aerial may not be wideband enough, yet when there were very low power stations on ch 63, just occasionally I could receive them. Nick, Hollesley.
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Robert B
Tuesday 10 July 2012 1:03PM
With Sudbury finally transmitting on full power we read that with the introduction of 4G services by the moblie phone companies that Freeview may be disruppted for over two million viewers. If 4G goes ahead does anyone know if it will affetct Sudbury Freeview services? I read that some kind of filters will have to be connected to affected equipment to correct the problem. Sounds like more hassle.
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PETER HUGHES
Wednesday 11 July 2012 8:21AM Clacton-on-sea
Like Nick in Aldeburgh I also cannot get Channel 60 signal at all and this is in Clacton. All other channels stable and good quality.

Perhaps channel 60 is not, yet, transmitting at full intended power?
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Nick
Wednesday 11 July 2012 10:19AM Bures
I am posting this at 1000 on July 11. I live at Alphamstone, about two miles west of the Sudbury transmitter. For the last three weeks or so I have noticed a major fluctuation in signal quality from the Sudbury transmitter. It is intermittent, mostly at this time in the morning about twice a week, dropping from 100% to 40% and back again. The signal strength does not change (80%). I have a very powerful aerial and am processing through a Humax PVR 9300 T. I did a retune about a week ago and all was fine.

This problem, which has only started recently, creates dropouts in picture/sound. I should point out that the weather is clear right now, just in case that is an issue.

Any help from this forum would be gratefully acknowledged.

Kind regards

Nick
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David
Wednesday 11 July 2012 11:03AM Clacton-on-sea
Sudbury coming in good on my aerial now its not even pointing at Sudbury its on CP yet channels 56 , 58 , and 60 are now all above 70% on my Odys TV7 Novel 7 this is in Clacton.

CP is around 75% and Bluebell Hill 60% + Dover is around 50% all on the same one.
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 11:08AM Bures
Further to the above post, I see there is another Nick so I will change my posts to Nick A.

Just to say the time is now 1100 and the signal quality is back to a steady 100%. Any ideas ?
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 11:10AM Bures
Hi David

Did you have any issues between 0900 and 1100 this morning ?

Nick A
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 11:14AM Bures
And the problem is back (1115) on More 4, BBC channels etc
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 11 July 2012 1:58PM
Nick A: The signal strength jumping up and down as you describe sounds like it could be signal overload, particularly bearing in mind your close proximity to the transmitter.

See this page for an explanation and remedy:

www.ukfree.tv link icon Freeview signals: too much of a good thing is bad for you | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 2:43PM Bures
Hi Dave

Thanks for that. I looked at the website which addresses signal 'strength'. But my issue is with 'quality' not 'strength'.

The signal 'strength' stays consistently at 80%, even when the 'quality' fluctuates down to 20% .

So, I am still stymied. Thoughts ?

Regards

Les Nicol
Wednesday 11 July 2012 2:57PM
Nick A: I realise you are seeking further response from Dave, but if you are still "stymied" and aren't a fanatical fan with regard to the "Dave" channel on "Freeview" there is a comparable channel line up on the "Freesat" platform. Perhaps a "no goer" for you if you have invested in "Freeview" equipment beyond a TV set with an onboard "Freeview" tuner.

Just a thought?
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 11 July 2012 3:14PM
Nick A: There are two factors with digital signals:

- strength: this is the level of the signal (level of voltage if you like)

- quality: digital pictures are resolved to digits (numberical values)


A poor quality signal means that the digits are not being received correctly and hence the picture breaks up or cannot be resolved at all.

Receivers have upper thresholds of signal strength that they can operate at.

A hifi system has a similar maximum level above which the signal starts to distort and therefore the quality reduces.

I imagine that when the strength of a digital signal gets to a level that is excessive (or bordering on excessive), then the effect is analogous to distortion of a hifi system's sound output.
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KMJ,Derby
Wednesday 11 July 2012 3:29PM
Nick A: Check whether changing the position of the connecting leads relative to the box and TV makes any difference to the signal quality, as sometimes there is interaction between them.
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 3:50PM Bures
Thank you all.

Questions:

1. the site Dave sent me to says that any signal above 75% is too high. Yet, that is what it has been registering since the day I installed it a year ago and without any problems. The problem has arisen and been intermittent since the signal boost at Sudbury in June. If I install an attenuator will it fix the problem ?

2. it does seem odd that I am the only person having this problem (or at least reporting it on this website). this leads me to believe it could be a localised issue. Yet, I have done the usual debugging (including the tip from KMJ, thank you). No difference.

And thank you to Les. I did toy with a Freesat, but am now fully invested in Freeview. So for the time being, and provided I can fix this, I will keep the status quo.

Sign me Nick A, frustrated but still working it !

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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 3:57PM Bures
Me again. Every channel is now completely stable. No reboot since this morning and signal strength at a steady 80%, signal quality at 100%. Hmmmmmmm.....
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 11 July 2012 4:54PM
Nick A: 1. Signal level meters vary between devices. So the levels indicated by different devices connected to the same aerial may show different levels. If they were more accurate then receivers would be more expensive as they would have to have more accurate components in!

An attenuator will reduce the level of the signals and will rectify the issue if it is caused by too high a signal level.

2. The level of the signal coming out of the aerial cable is relative to the strength of the signal in the air where your aerial is as well as the sensitivity of the aerial.


You have said that the problem seems to have arisen since the power increase of the three Commercial multiplexes from Sudbury last month. Each multiplex is a single signal which carries multiple services. For example, one carries all BBC standard definition services (BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Three etc).

It is not necessarily just the signal in question that is tuned to that can overwhelm a receiver. High power signals on nearby frequencies can do so as well. Since June you have more higher power signals on nearby frequencies.


A solution to a technical problem isn't necessarily clear cut. It is a case of making observations of what is happening and making a change which may seem the most likely. In this case, trying reducing the signal level would seem the most likely possible solution based on what we know. It is also the case that its cost is low.

You may be able to crudely attenuate the signal (reduce its level) by removing the aerial plug and holding it close to the socket (either at the wall socket or the back of the receiver).

Or at your location you may be able to use a set-top aerial. These being to test the theory that it may be too high a signal level.


If it is too high a signal level, then the fact that it works without difficulty sometimes could be explained by signal levels varying a little bit at different times. At certain times they become too high.
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 4:55PM Bures
and now it is back to the intermittent quality issue.......

i am assuming that if the signal 'overstrength' was an issue then the 'quality' would be consistently poor. it is not. it fluctuates from 100% down to 40% and back, and then is perfectly fine at 100% for half an hour or more.
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 11 July 2012 5:07PM
Nick A: It may be worth checking that your receiver is tuned to the signals from Sudbury and that you are, unknowingly, watching the output from a neighbouring transmitter.

Signal strength screens usually give the UHF channel (frequency) that it is tuned to. There are six signals (multiplexes) from Sudbury:

PSB1 | BBC One | C44
PSB2 | ITV1 | C41
PSB3 | BBC One HD | C47 (if applicable)
COM4 | ITV3 | C58
COM5 | Pick TV | C60
COM6 | Yesterday | C56

The "C" numbers are UHF channel numbers.

I have listed one service carried on each multiplex. To identify which multiplex a particular service is carried on, see this page:

www.dmol.co.uk link icon http://www.dmol.co.uk/mux….php

Looking at the predictor for your location, Sandy Heath and Crystal Palace are perhaps possibilities. If you find any of the PSBs tuned (incorrectly) to channels in the 20s, then a simple way around this is to run the automatic tuning scan with the aerial unplugged for the first 30% of the scan (or until it gets past C30).
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Nick A
Wednesday 11 July 2012 5:36PM Bures
Hi Dave

Sorry, our posts went up at the same time. Thanks for your further notes. I will try a few things.

The aerial is in another location. I tried moving it off about 15 degrees and have reduced the signal strength down to 70%, but the quality problem is still there. So i will totter out and get an attenuator tomorrow.

But logic says to me, if i can reduce the signal to within tolerance and the problem remains, then the strength issue may not be the problem.

Yours ever hopeful,

Nick A
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Nick
Wednesday 11 July 2012 7:47PM Aldeburgh
Hi Dave,
You were possibly talking to the other Nick, but here at Hollesley I am scratching my head.
I actually have three boxes on three separate Sudbury aerials. In analogue days, one aerial was much better for C5. Now I find that the main box, my pvr, on that aerial, shows virtually no signal on ch60 and therefore no reception, whilst the other boxes and aerials are now getting the mux on C60. Dover, on a homemade aerial, at upstairs window height only, brings in all channels!
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Nick A
Thursday 12 July 2012 2:15PM Bures
So, I tried an attenuator which reduced the signal strength but has no effect on the variable quality. I switched everything around so that the TV alone was carrying the signal and the quality is still variable. So the receivers are blameless (I think). The only thing left is trees, but they have been in full leaf since mid-June and the severest problem has only arisen in the last couple of days.



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