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Jamie Jones: Can you please give
My Freeview box has no EPG, is missing Film4, Channel 4+1, no sound on ITV3 or the channel line up is wrong | ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 a go. This usually fixes the problem with the EPG.
If not, you may have to wait for 9th September 2009 for your box to have a full EPG again.
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Report this messagetony: You could try removing the amplifier, also you could just wait until 9th September 2009 for the high-power signals you will get then.
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Report this messageCheers for that. So you don't think changing the orientation of the aerial would do much?
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Report this messageThanks.. I've already tried those things and the EPG comes back for an hour or so then goes again!
It's not really much of a hassle, as I get those channels from wenvoe which DOES have the info, they are on 800+ but I can move them, so it's no hassle having to wait
thanks
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Report this messageJamie Jones: Sorry for not being able to resolve the problem right now. Channels in the 800s can be a bit of a nightmare.
Roll on Wednesday 9th September 2009 I guess?
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Report this messagetony: You live somewhere with lots of reception possibilities, if you can move the aerial, you have a lot of choices.
Find out how to receive Freeview at postcode SA128YL | ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 Posted by
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Report this messagebrian, no worries - I'll leave it for now, and if 9th Sep changes don't help, I'll try and chase it up with the manufacturers
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Report this messageat long last i had freeview then for the past two days i've lost bbc1, bbc2 and itv1 that i know of ( i live in briton ferry, pointing towards kilvey hill trans) any help
thanks
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Report this messageJamie Jones: I'm sure everything will be fine on that date.
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Report this message09.09.09 9am Kilvey Hill dso-2 all good on
indoor aerial near Ilfracombe.
Caradon affected by co-channel signals
from KH, despite opposite polarisation.
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Report this messageMichael: Very interesting reception report: is Caradon up now? How does the CCI between Caradon and Kilvey manifest itself?
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Report this messageMichael: Indoor reception is often characterised by random reflections, so this seems possible. A rooftop aerial should not have interference. I'm not sure we can call it CCI as COFDM is supposed to work with transmitters using the same frequency...
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Report this messageBriantist and industrycinic : I´ve posted
on the Caradon page. I am slightly surprised
at the cross-polar CCI, but it can´t be due
to anything else.Random reflections may well distort effects. The CCI-free COM channels
from Caradon are excellent, all the PSBs
with KH CCI are more or less unwatchable,
despite 85% signal and 55% quality on the
indefatigable "Woolymeter". A proper analyser would doubtless be more informative! Between dso 1 and 2, Caradon A was excellent. I will try to find time later this week for aerial experiments. Screening off the Caradon aerial from KH in front of the chimney might help. I might turn the BB grid round to face south and/or try a log. For clarification: the Silver Sensor log gets dso Preseli, Carmel and Kilvey through the north-facing window and trees. Caradon is by WB bacofoil yagi on a chimney pole.
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Report this messageActually I am not surprised by this, there have been CCI issues between the UK and Ireland, and in France with high power DVB-T. I noticed that even with horizontal antennas verticals could be received eg in LD17 area and in Cornwall perfectly on DVB-T systems, This is due to external reflections and repolarisation effects. It could have serious implications for coverage. They should have operated Caradon and Stockland as SFNs which would have eliminated the problem: instead you have a lot of people losing service who will be very disgruntled today. Cute shielding is needed eg a log and using the building as a shield in Michael's case. Bacofoil Yagis have no directivity!
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Report this messageBriantist: NB COFDM only works with transmitters using the same frequencies which are transmitting the same data and which are synchronised. This is NOT the case with the current emerging CCI problems between Caradon, KH and Stockland.
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Report this messageindustrycynic: I seems odd they would not have thought of that.
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Report this messageBriantist: Why should be surprised? Ofcom and Co live in a theoretical world and the UK kas a long history of technology cockups masterminded by them and their predecessor entities with many of the same dramatis personae. In addition the Bristol Channel area is spectrally very congested and tricky to serve because of the topography on either side.
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Report this messageindustrycynic: I've had plenty of conversations with people from that bit of Ofcom and they do seem very sure of their predictions.
I think it is easier to predict where signals will go over water than over land, the model they use is sophisticated, the have assure me.
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Report this messageBriantist: I don't share your excited enthusiasm for them. Once we have tropo lifts in that area (scheduled for later this week) their theories will be tested nicely in the real world laboratory. The jury has only been presented with less than 24 hours RF evidence.
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Report this messageNow, now, we surely don´t want to confuse
their smug calculations with empirical data!
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Report this messageMichael: Sorry, what is "smug" about computer modelling?
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Report this messageindustrycynic: OK, let's wait and see then?
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Report this messageBrian, yes, after the September 9th full switchover, the box is now behaving properly again!
However, for the last few days, we've been getting text messages flash up on various channels warning us we'll need to retune AGAIN on 30th September! The following doc. seems to verify this, but I've not heard of this change anywhere else - do you have details?
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/36124/12-08-09_kilvey_hill_dso1.pdf
Cheers,
Jamie
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Report this messageBelugh, yeah, that's it - I expected something on this page about it - I still can't work out the MUXes and their channels after the 30th september change!
As for the OFCOM argument, I agree with Brian. I also think that some of you others need to seperate OFCOM bureaucracy / politics from OFCOM engineering.
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Report this messageJamie Jones: There would be more if I could actually get Freeview to actually say which channels is going to which multiplex.
Moving ITV3 and ITV4 from multiplex 2 makes way for FIVE and one other channel. I think this could have been ITV1+1, but this seems to have been cancelled.
There have been suggestions that ITV3 and ITV4 will move to Multiplex D, but this is owned by Arqiva, whereas Multiplex A belongs to SDN, which is 100% owned by ITV, but mux A is very full already.
As soon as I know exactly what is going where, there will be updates. But probably not next week as my shoulder is being operated on.
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Report this messageok, thanks for the reply - hope the operation goes smoothly.
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Report this messageJamie Jones: Thanks, me too.
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Report this messageHere's a list of the channels and UHF numbers on the transmitter,
Hope this is useful for you,
As of 2040-2100 pm 30/09/2009
CH22
SKY THREE
Dave
E4+1
price drop tv
Sky News
Sky Spts News
smile TV3
SKy Text
TROVE
talkSPORT
Premier Radio
Absolute Radio
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Ch23
BBC OINE WALES
BBC TWO WALES
BBS THREE
BBC FOUR
CBBC Channel
CBeebies
BBC NEWS
BBC Parliament
BBC Red Button
301
BBC RADIO 1
BBC 1 Xtra
BBC RADIO 2
BBC RADIO 3
BBC RADIO 4
BBC R5L
BBC R5LSX
BBC 6 Music
BBC Radio 7
BBC Asian Net
BBc World Sv
BBC Radio Wales
BBC Radio Cymru
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CH 25
ITV 3
QVC
Virgin1
bid tv
E4
FIVER
FIVE USA
QUEST
CNN
S4/C2
Teachers TV
Televison X
PARTYLAND
S4/C (strangely on number 800)
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CH 26
ITV 1` Wales
S4/C
FIVE
ITV2
Channel 4
Channel 4+1
More 4
ITV ( itv 2+1)
Teletext
Ttext Holidays
Rabbit
Direct Gov
Gay Rabbit
Heart
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CH 28
Yesterday
Film4
4 Music
TMF
Ideal World
ITV 4
Dave ja vu
(blank channel) (Shows itv 2 has moved message)
Big deal
Virgin 1+1
Create & Craft
Rocks & Co
lottery Xtra
Russia Today
NEWS (blank no message or video feed)
Smile TV2
BabeStation
4TVinteractive
TOPUP Anytime
The Hits Radio
Kiss
Heat
MAgic
Q
Smooth Radio
Kerrang!
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CH 29
305( Loads black screen)
302 (Re-tune help)
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(map)Posted by Sean Pursey (
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Report this messageS4C on CH 25 is a retune message. Also, Excuse the typos
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Report this messageAlso , Community shows a message explaining the channel is no longer available in the area
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Report this messageSean Pursey: Thanks very much for that list, it is most helpful.
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Report this messageI cannot get BBC1 & BBC two the picture freezes up on both channels I installed a new arial and retuned
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Report this messageBill Watkins: I could be your box, it isn't on this list is it?
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Report this messageBill Watkins: Can you get dave and sky three ?
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KILVEY HILL transmitter - All FM, R Cymru, R Wales FM Weak Signal - From 1102 [BBC]
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KILVEY HILL transmitter - All FM, R Cymru, R Wales FM Weak Signal - From 0554 [BBC]
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KILVEY HILL transmitter - All FM, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru Weak Signal - From 1001 [BBC]
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KILVEY HILL transmitter - All FM, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru Weak Signal - 1001-1221 [BBC]
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KILVEY HILL transmitter - All FM, Radio Wales, Radio Cymru Weak Signal - From 1008 [BBC]
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Report this messageI curently receive freeview from kilvey hill and the reception is excellent.When will I be able to receive freeview HD ?
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Report this messageR T urner: It's supposed to be running now, in fact.
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