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The symbol shows the location of the Presely transmitter. Your Freeview box may report this transmitter as Wenvoe as this the main regional transmitter. The Presely transmitter covers 57,000 homes.
Freeview on Presely requires aerial group/position BH, transmitter ERP 833W, at 545m -
The yellow area has the strongest signal from this transmitter, green areas are served by stronger signals from other transmitters, white shows low signal areas. See Overlap Map Key for details.
You may not be able to receive all the Freeview channels
Some channels on the Presely transmitter have lower transmission power so you may receive only some of them.
Your cables, connectors and aerial may need upgrading to get all the Freeview channels.
If you are missing your electronic programme guide (EPG), your channel line-up is wrong or incomplete, you have no subtitles or the 'press red' services do not work, please try this reset procedure first.
Mux is an abbreviation of multiplex. The Effective power level takes into account the transmission mode - and does not indicate a fault condition.
To receive Freeview from the Presely transmitter you will require an aerial of group B positioned horizontally. This transmitter is 545 metres above sea-level, and transmits at 833 watts.
Full list of Freeview transmitters.
Digital switchover process details
Digital switchover happens over a number of weeks, this is to allow people in areas who where unable to use Freeview before switchover time to purchase equipment before the analogue service is terminated.Wednesday 19th August 2009
ITV-1 swaps to C40. BBC TWO C43 closes. PSB1 starts on C43.Wednesday 16th September 2009
BBC One C46 closes. BBC Two C40 closes. Channel 4 C50 closes. FIVE C37 closes. Mux 1 C47 closes. Mux 2 C51 closes. Mux A C39 closes. Mux B C42 closes. Mux C C45 closes. Mux D C49 closes.Freeview power increases from 1,333 W to 15,000 W, 11 times stronger.
PSB2 starts on C46. COM4 starts on C42. PSB3 starts on C50. COM5 starts on C45. COM6 starts on C49. NEW7 starts on C30.
See also Presely transmitter - analogue shutdown schedule.
Self-help relays
Self-help relays are transmitters that are not owned by the broadcasting and transmission companies, but by the local users. An active deflector (AD) re-transmits the analogue broadcasts on the same frequencies as the original broadcasts, while a transposer (T) transmits the received broadcasts on different frequencies.| Relay name | Type | Location | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| ABERGYNOLWYN | AD | Gwynedd | 84 homes |
| CAERBERLLAN | AD | ||
| CWMTYDU A/D | AD | 17 km NNE Newcastle Emlyn | 10 homes 50 caravans |
| DREFELIN | AD | 20 km NNW Carmarthen | 36 homes |
| POPPIT SANDS | AD | 39 km NE Carmarthen Caravan Park | |
| RHYD-YR-ONNEN | AD | 20 km N Aberystwyth | 20 homes caravan site |
Transmission frequencies
Before Sunday 15th November 1998
| C37 | C40 | C43 | C46 | C50 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FIVE | BBC TWO | ITV1 | BBC One | S4C |
Sunday 15th November 1998 to Wednesday 19th August 2009
| C37 | C39 | C40 | C42- | C43 | C45- | C46 | C47+ | C49- | C50 | C51+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FIVE | Mux A | BBC TWO | Mux B | ITV1 | Mux C | BBC One | Mux 1 | Mux D | S4C | Mux 2 |
After Wednesday 16th September 2009¶
| C30* | C42- | C43+ | C45- | C46+ | C49- | C50+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mux NEW7 | Mux SDN | Mux BBCA | Mux ArqA | Mux D3+4 | Mux ArqB | Mux BBCB |
Colour bands denote aerial groups: Red:A Yellow:B Green:C/D Brown:E Grey:K Black:Wideband
Notes
'Out of group' frequencies are marked with a star. Analogue power output 100,000 Watts, post switchover average digital multiplex output will be 12,857 Watts.To receive signals from this transmitter, the aerial must be mounted for horizontal polarization - the elements going from left to right.
Before switchover, the public service broadcasting multiplexes were 1, 2 and B; afterwards they were first PSB1, 2 and 3 but now called BBCA, D3+4 and BBCB. The commercial multiplexes A, C and D had initial post-switchover names COM4, 5 and 6; now they are SDN, ArqA and ArqB. At switchover BBCA, ArqA and ArqB will switch from 16QAM to 64QAM mode transmission, so five multiplexes will transmit in the 64QAM (2/3) 8k mode. BBCB is used for Freeview HD (DVB-T2, 256QAM), and has a pre-switchover service on selected main transmitters.
After switchover, you will have needed to upgrade to a Wideband aerial to receive some or all digital television services.
Comparison of analogue and digital signal levels
| Analogue 1-5 | |
| 100kW | |
| BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | |
| 20kW (-7dB) | |
| SDN, ARQA, ARQB | |
| 10kW (-10dB) | |
| MuxA*, MuxB* | |
| 2kW (-17dB) | |
| Mux1*, Mux2*, MuxC*, MuxD* | |
| 1000W (-20dB) | |
| *-pre digital switchover (DSO). Decibel values compare to strongest signal value. | |
itv1 - Presely transmitter area*
| Date | Incumbent ITV company |
|---|---|
| 14th Sep 1962 to July 1964 | Wales (West and North) Television (Teledu Cymru) |
| July 1964 to July 1968 | Television Wales and the West |
| July 1968 to date | Harlech Television |
| 1st Feb 1983 to 31st Dec 1992 | TV-am (breakfast) |
| 1st Jan 1993 to date | GMTV (breakfast) |
| Note | For digital switchover this region is now known as HTV Wales. |
405-line VHF black and white TV
From the Preseli transmitter, ITV was broadcast on VHF C8. In the United Kingdom, 405-line television was used from 1936-39 and 1946 until 1982-85.<< 24-Oct-06 < Previous 24-Oct-06
Presely transmitter - Freeview HD Digital TV Weak Signal from 10:34 yesterday to 12:23 yesterday [BBC] 
PRESELY transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV Weak Signal from 09:37 yesterday to 10:30 yesterday [BBC]
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Thank you for your reply just curious where did you find out about the reception change on October the 7th?. Also where I live I have a relay transmitter less than a mile from me but it does not have all the channels so that is why I try to source from Preseli.I also have tried connecting the aerial straight to the tv but had no reception. The cable that came with the aerial was a little bit short from reaching my tv so had use a aerial connector and more coax.
Posted by David (12 posts) on Wednesday 23 September 2009 5:25PM 
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October is listed in the DUK table, but I´m
not sure where I found 7th. SDN and ArqA
should then be stronger here, the others
unchanged. Check your own location on DUK
to see if you can expect any similar improvement. Tweaking your installation is your best hope. If not, you might be able to
receive the weak mux from another tx until finality in 2013 - but this would probably require an additional aerial.
Additional coax connections will induce
additional loss, but this would probably only
be evident in a borderline case - or if the
connections are dodgy. Move the TV closer temporarily to avoid the extension coax and see if there is any improvement. Some connecting coax cables with moulded plugs are sub-standard. If better, it might be worth using sat-quality cable and good quality plug/socket connectors to make up your own extension - unless you can replace
the whole length to the aerial. It is just possible you have a co-channel interference problem on the weak mux. Cross-check DUK tables! I have that issue here with Carmel/Ilfracombe and Kilvey/Caradon. Carmel moved channels yesterday. It used to wipe out Huntshaw, but now it wipes out Ilfracombe and Huntshaw is back. As my Irish best mate used to say: these things are sent to try us!
not sure where I found 7th. SDN and ArqA
should then be stronger here, the others
unchanged. Check your own location on DUK
to see if you can expect any similar improvement. Tweaking your installation is your best hope. If not, you might be able to
receive the weak mux from another tx until finality in 2013 - but this would probably require an additional aerial.
Additional coax connections will induce
additional loss, but this would probably only
be evident in a borderline case - or if the
connections are dodgy. Move the TV closer temporarily to avoid the extension coax and see if there is any improvement. Some connecting coax cables with moulded plugs are sub-standard. If better, it might be worth using sat-quality cable and good quality plug/socket connectors to make up your own extension - unless you can replace
the whole length to the aerial. It is just possible you have a co-channel interference problem on the weak mux. Cross-check DUK tables! I have that issue here with Carmel/Ilfracombe and Kilvey/Caradon. Carmel moved channels yesterday. It used to wipe out Huntshaw, but now it wipes out Ilfracombe and Huntshaw is back. As my Irish best mate used to say: these things are sent to try us!
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Thanks for your reply. The reason I didn't change the original cable was it was sealed on the aerial. Will take on board what you have said and will look into it.I still have the option to get rid of my booster an attach a mast booster as well at a later date. For now I will try some new cables etc inside and see if this helps.
Posted by David (12 posts) on Thursday 24 September 2009 9:11AM
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Can confirm after todays retune my COM5 has drastically improved. e.g Sky Sports News used to be : SIGNAL STRENGTH 60%
SIGNAL QUALITY 24%
It is has now gone to:
SIGNAL STRENGTH 70%
SIGNAL QUALITY 100%
All other channels in COM5 have similar signal strengths. (map)
SIGNAL QUALITY 24%
It is has now gone to:
SIGNAL STRENGTH 70%
SIGNAL QUALITY 100%
All other channels in COM5 have similar signal strengths. (map)
Posted by David (12 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 11:32AM
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David: What about COM4 and COM6 ?
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David (and Brian) : Good News! The DUK table was obviously not current. Their installer update states power increase today, as we observe. For comparison, Preseli here at 13:30:-
ArqB : 60% and 95% Q (power up March 2010)
ArqA : 78% and 97% Q
SDN : 76% and 97% Q
Here these may fluctuate with tides, of course.
ArqB : 60% and 95% Q (power up March 2010)
ArqA : 78% and 97% Q
SDN : 76% and 97% Q
Here these may fluctuate with tides, of course.
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michael: That's good news. Can you tell me what's on PSB1 and PSB3 now please?
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Not sure how I can tell what is on these channels I only went by the programme lists from the top of the page. (map)
Posted by David (12 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 2:57PM
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Brian: Preseli programmes at 15:00 :-
BBC-A : 1W, 2W, N,CBBC, Cbeebies, Parl, 301,
13 BBC radio stations
D3&4 : itv1W, itv2, C4, M4, 4+1, S4/C,
Five, itv2+1 (listing as ITV)
BBC-A : 1W, 2W, N,CBBC, Cbeebies, Parl, 301,
13 BBC radio stations
D3&4 : itv1W, itv2, C4, M4, 4+1, S4/C,
Five, itv2+1 (listing as ITV)
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Since todays retune, freeview boxes in the house are fine but my PC can no longer get the Mux with Five USA, Virgin etc. Tried rescanning but without success, anyone got any ideas please? I've rung the helpline but get passed to PC manufacturer, ring them and they pass me back to freeview.
Posted by Nathan (4 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 3:24PM
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Michael: Looks like you don't need the Caradon shielding upgrade after all. Handy. Post your results in summary over on ds too, as its most informative stuff. Hope dog was well walked!
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David: OK, don't worry. You can usually get the boxes to tell you the information, but not always and never the same way.
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Nathan: THere was a problem with COM4/SDN earlier from another transmitter, can you try rescanning now because it's back...
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michael: Is BBCB now empty?
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Thanks for your advice Briantist. I've removed the aerial from PC, retuned and got nothing as advised, reconnected aerial, rescanned and get the same thing as earlier. All channels are their and working except the likes of Five USA, Fiver, Virgin etc. The channels appear in the found channels list but upon selecting the screen is black and the message 'No signal' appears. Seeing as our freeview boxes are all OK would it be fair to say its a New PC Tuner Card needed?
Posted by Nathan (4 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 6:07PM
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Nathan: It might be, but first I would check Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 just in case. If you get the EPG but no listings you must have a weak signal.
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Briantist thanks again. Looked into what you said without any joy. I get the EPG and the full listings of all channels even the ones with the no Signal message.
Posted by Nathan (4 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 6:28PM
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Nathan: Have you seen Switch over and PC-based systems | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 ? I don't know what software you are using...
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Briantist you are a star! Just finished witht he updates you recomended, had some different set up screens appear during the searching for channels phase and walaa. All channels are now back, EPG working and no more No Signal messages. Thanks Briantist.
Posted by Nathan (4 posts) on Wednesday 30 September 2009 7:44PM
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Brian : Good to get such accolades! And you
deserve it. I hope your shoulder has survived
this day without a moan...
BBC-B from Huntshaw, Carmel and Preseli now shows a "has moved" notice plus the 302 with chirpy retune admonishment and glorious flashbacks to 405 lines. Those were the days...
I have neglected Ilfracombe/Carmel today.
Just now all three Ilfracombe muxes were
unresolvable. There was no reason to expect
any improvement. I will continue to monitor this, and maybe try screening (now that I don´t have to for Caradon/Kilvey. I also need to monitor boosted Preseli, and Carmel
and Kilvey, for tidal fluctuations. AFTER I have finished marking them there essays :-(
deserve it. I hope your shoulder has survived
this day without a moan...
BBC-B from Huntshaw, Carmel and Preseli now shows a "has moved" notice plus the 302 with chirpy retune admonishment and glorious flashbacks to 405 lines. Those were the days...
I have neglected Ilfracombe/Carmel today.
Just now all three Ilfracombe muxes were
unresolvable. There was no reason to expect
any improvement. I will continue to monitor this, and maybe try screening (now that I don´t have to for Caradon/Kilvey. I also need to monitor boosted Preseli, and Carmel
and Kilvey, for tidal fluctuations. AFTER I have finished marking them there essays :-(
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Nathan: Thanks. You have more-or-less what you would have with Windows 7 Media Center now. You can even pull up the testcard... How do I get a test card with Freeview | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002
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michael: Yes, it is. And I've made 228 posts in the last 24 hours plus the pictures and the channels table and a few graphics.
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I switched on my Btvision box this morning and it asked to scan for channels. I set it to go and all the regional channels bbc one wales etc appeared in the 800's. None were outstanding quality but that don't bother me as I have the standard channels already. The reason I am mentioning this is I is to say this didn't come thru with the main update with me so it may be the same for other people who didn't get all their channels from the start. (map)
Posted by David (12 posts) on Thursday 1 October 2009 9:38AM
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David: If you have channels on the 800 numbers, restart the "tuning from factory settings" option again.
The changes are the reason why you are being asked to retune from scratch.
The changes are the reason why you are being asked to retune from scratch.
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Just to say, TXs from preseli all fine after the switchover and re-tune the other day being picked up in Haverfordwest with an attic aerial. (map)
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Iain Davies: Thanks for that.
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Hi there can anyone help? I bought a Philips DTR 120 STB yesterday, 0% signal 0% quality from an aerial previously used succesfully (prior to switchover)with a sagem box (aerial is a standard 16/18 bay aerial (not sure if it is high gain) and is some 100 yards away in a field on top of hill pointing towards Preseli transmitter).
I have built today believe it or not an aerial out of a foil dish, a beer can, copper wire and co-ax with booster. It picks up 43 channels with some 80% reception 80% quality and is pointing toward and picking up Haverfordwest transmitter it seems. Can anyone therefore recommend a good indoor or outdoor aerial or dish to make this permanent, or should I look at other options for Preseli transmitter? (map)
I have built today believe it or not an aerial out of a foil dish, a beer can, copper wire and co-ax with booster. It picks up 43 channels with some 80% reception 80% quality and is pointing toward and picking up Haverfordwest transmitter it seems. Can anyone therefore recommend a good indoor or outdoor aerial or dish to make this permanent, or should I look at other options for Preseli transmitter? (map)
Posted by Marty (1 post) on Monday 5 October 2009 5:36PM
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Marty: Sounds like your old aerial has had a failure, but if it is 100m away from the house there is a lot of scope for things being wrong.
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Marty : Patent your beer-can antenna :-))
I have an Antiference "Silver Sensor" indoor
aerial, which is well designed and works
well - assuming a good signal coming through the window. It brings in Preseli, Carmel and
Kilvey Hill across the Bristol Channel.
I have an Antiference "Silver Sensor" indoor
aerial, which is well designed and works
well - assuming a good signal coming through the window. It brings in Preseli, Carmel and
Kilvey Hill across the Bristol Channel.
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We have a small caravan site in west Wales and receive our signal from the Preseli transmitter. Since the switch over all has been fine receiving all of the freeview channels both in the house and the caravans on the site. However that was until to-day Sunday 11th October when some of the channels have gone, these include Yesterday Film4, 4 music, Dave. Ja vu, ITV 4 and Dave plus a few more. According the web site for Preseli the transmitter has no current reported problems. Re-scanning has been tried can anyone help with information.
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How can I tune into national rather than regional BBC1 and BBC2, and can I receive HD images if my television supports it with just my freeview box?
Posted by Jane (1 post) on Wednesday 4 November 2009 5:44PM
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Jane: You get the versions of BBC and ITV channels that your local transmitter provides. If you want to watch other version, you can do that on Freesat, Sky or Virgin Media.
No, you cannot watch HD yet on Freeview. From this transmitter that will be next year, and you will need a Freeview HD box.
No, you cannot watch HD yet on Freeview. From this transmitter that will be next year, and you will need a Freeview HD box.
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Is anybody getting interference on Preseli COM muxes in Wales because RTE Mount Leinster DTT trials are wrecking Preseli COM mux reception in Ireland as well as RTE!!. Also RTE now broadcasting on Channel 39 MPEG4 DVB-T1. Reports?
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Leinster, Preseli, Ilfracombe are more or less
on a straight line. Thus far no affect on Preseli COMs noted here, probably due to relative distances. Are the Leinster trials 24/7 or only at intervals?
Have the major interference issues (Ilfracombe and worse) been collated? Is Ofcom waiting before contemplating action? No change at Ilfracombe as yet. MP appears to have new priorities now... Some viewers have found an alternative, many have no other option. Our village self-help still
unwatchable for extended periods.
on a straight line. Thus far no affect on Preseli COMs noted here, probably due to relative distances. Are the Leinster trials 24/7 or only at intervals?
Have the major interference issues (Ilfracombe and worse) been collated? Is Ofcom waiting before contemplating action? No change at Ilfracombe as yet. MP appears to have new priorities now... Some viewers have found an alternative, many have no other option. Our village self-help still
unwatchable for extended periods.
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MichaeL; You are too far away from Mount Leinster. RTE Mount Leinster is on 24x7 on 39, 42, 45, 49. Do you see anything on 39 which is clear of Preseli (you are too close). NB RTE are MPEG4 T1, so on a UK Freeview MPEG2 only box you only get the LCNs and soujnd. BT Vision and the Sagem Picnic box give pictures. The forthcoming DVB-T2 boxes will also decode RTE.
No news on Ilfracombe but retuning and CCI emerging as a major issue in Granadaland.
No news on Ilfracombe but retuning and CCI emerging as a major issue in Granadaland.
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INDUSTRYCYNIC : Thanks. Not a tweet on ch39, which, as bodes well for clean Preseli here. I´ll check ch39 from time to time. Maybe when we get a high. I think I may have discovered why Carmel is beaming in with such gusto : homesickness obviation. Our practice will soon have a new GP - from the Principality :-)
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BBC channels keep breaking up. All otyer ones are ok. Is there a reception problem?
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R.KNIGHT: Please can you see Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice ?
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hello there
Will the Presely Multiplexs SDN, ArqA and Arqb be transmitting on 200000 Watts power at all
Thanks for your help
Derek
Will the Presely Multiplexs SDN, ArqA and Arqb be transmitting on 200000 Watts power at all
Thanks for your help
Derek
Posted by derek (1 post) on Saturday 3 April 2010 9:13PM 
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derek: No, after switch-over the commercial multiplexes are on 10kW, the PSB ones on 20kW.
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Hi,
I am in Wexford on East Coast of Ireland. I am not picking up any on COM 4/5 & 6. I was able to receive everything after switchover in 2009. I may have single frequency interference but I'm wondering if anyone else in the area has suffered same?
I am in Wexford on East Coast of Ireland. I am not picking up any on COM 4/5 & 6. I was able to receive everything after switchover in 2009. I may have single frequency interference but I'm wondering if anyone else in the area has suffered same?
Posted by Michael King (2 posts) on Monday 19 April 2010 2:02PM
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Michael King: There have been changes in the weather, What is the Inversion Effect and why does it effect my Freeview TV reception?
| ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice might be the explanation.
| ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice might be the explanation.
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Thanks Brian.
Has anyone in Wexford/Wicklow had any success getting those lost channels back?
Has anyone in Wexford/Wicklow had any success getting those lost channels back?
Posted by Michael King (2 posts) on Monday 26 April 2010 2:59PM
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Michael King: You might have to wait until the weather changes?
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Preseli HD is now live and being received in Wicklow easily and effortlesly!! Reported over on boards.ie.
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industrycynic: Yeah, I saw that. I've updated the database, not showing on the page yet. I'll have a look at the code tonight.
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RTE DTT transmissions from Mount Leinster are wrecking Preseli COM reception as they are both on E45.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2010/07/08/disappearing-channels-leave-viewers-fed-up-91466-26808646/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west_wales/10555298.stm
There's much more over at boards.ie ICDG forum.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2010/07/08/disappearing-channels-leave-viewers-fed-up-91466-26808646/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west_wales/10555298.stm
There's much more over at boards.ie ICDG forum.
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