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The symbol shows the location of the Bilsdale transmitter which serves 570,000 homes.

Other maps:Bilsdale DABBilsdale AM/FMBilsdale regionBBC North East and CumbriaTyne Tees

Radiation patterns

Radiation patterns withheld

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The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Bilsdale transmitter Freeview broadcasts

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below. The rating shown takes in account the output power level and the various Freeview transmission modes and do not indicate an ongoing fault.

MuxEffective power level, aerial positionRatingModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 horizontal
Maximum64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s
DVB-T MPEG2		100,000
Channel icons
1 BBC One North East and Cumbria, 2 BBC Two England, 7 BBC Three, 9 BBC Four, 70 CBBC Channel, 71 CBeebies, 80 BBC News, 81 BBC Parliament, 301 301, plus 12 others
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C26 (514.0MHz) from 676m datum.
PSB2
D3+4
 horizontal
Maximum64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s
DVB-T MPEG2		100,000
Channel icons
3 ITV (Tyne Tees), 4 Channel 4 North ads, 5 Channel 5 The North ads, 6 ITV 2, 13 Channel 4+1 North ads, 14 More 4, 28 E4, 33 ITV +1 (Tyne Tees),
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C29 (538.0MHz) from 676m datum.
PSB3
BBCB
 horizontal
Maximum256QAM 32KE 2/3
40.2Mb/s
DVB-T2 MPEG4		100,000
Channel icons
101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, plus 1 others
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C23 (490.0MHz) from 676m datum.
COM4
SDN
 horizontal
Above average64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s
DVB-T MPEG2		50,000
Channel icons
10 ITV 3, 20 G.O.L.D. (not free), 25 Dave ja vu, 26 Home (not free), 27 ITV 2 +1, 30 5*, 31 5USA, 34 ESPN UK (not free), 38 Quest, 39 The Zone, 44 Channel 5 +1, 72 CITV, plus 22 others
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C43 (650.0MHz) from 676m datum.
COM5
ArqA
 horizontal
Above average64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s
DVB-T MPEG2		50,000
Channel icons
 TV News,  TV Stars, 11 PICK TV, 12 Dave, 17 Really, 29 E4+1, 32 Movie Mix, 46 Challenge, 48 Food Network, 82 Sky News, 87 Community Channel, plus 9 others
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C46 (674.0MHz) from 681m datum.
COM6
ArqB
 horizontal
Above average64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s
DVB-T MPEG2		50,000
Channel icons
15 Film 4, 18 4Music, 19 Yesterday, 21 VIVA, 24 ITV 4, 41 Sky Sports 1 (not free), 42 Sky Sports 2 (not free), 47 4seven, 83 Al Jazeera English, 85 RT English , plus 21 others
• as a digital multiplex transmitted on frequency C40 (626.0MHz) from 681m datum.


Regional news from the Bilsdale transmitter


BBC Look North (Newcastle) 1.6m homes 6.0%
from Newcastle NE99 2NE, 74km north-northwest
to BBC North East and Cumbria region - 73 masts.

ITV Tyne Tees News 1.4m homes 5.4%
from Gateshead NE11 9SZ, 75km north-northwest
to ITV Tyne Tees region - 47 masts.

Self-help relays

Garsdale (pin Fold)Transposer63 homes (coverage together with SH34)
Hawsker BottomActive deflector 150 caravans
LangthwaiteActive deflector30 homes

How the transmission frequencies change over time

years1984-971997-981998-20122012-132013-182013-18
aerial groupA KA KKKKK
C212
C23C4C4C4BBCBBBCBBBCB
C24+Blocal
C26BBC2BBC2BBC2BBCABBCABBCA
C27+C
C29ITVITVITVD3+4D3+4D3+4
600C31Acom7
C33BBC1BBC1BBC1
C34+1
C35C5C5
C37com8
C40ArqBArqBArqB
C42D
C43SDNSDNSDN
C46ArqAArqAArqA

orange background for multiplexes names moregreen background for transmission frequencieslilac background for power levels in watts800MHz band: 4G mobile to start in 2013700MHz band: possible 4G in 2019 more600MHz band: new or moved digital TV services more
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W
Italics for analogue, digital switchover was Wednesdays 12th September and 26th September 2012.

  • Ofcom have projected that a local television service for Middlesbrough including Hartlepool, Stockton on Tees could use an Interleaved Frequency on the Bilsdale transmitter using C24
  • Ofcom have projected that a local television service for York could use an Interleaved Frequency on the Bilsdale transmitter using C24
  • COM7, COM8 projected for 2013-16.

Comparison of old analogue and current digital signal levels

Analogue 1-5 500kW
com7, com8, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 100kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB(-10dB) 50kW
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*(-19.2dB) 6kW
Mux 1*(-20.2dB) 4.8kW
Mux D*(-24.9dB) 1.6kW

History of Channel 3 in the Bilsdale transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Jul 1974Yorkshire Television
Jul 1974-Feb 2004Tyne Tees Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Bilsdale was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.


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Darren Brown
Monday 23 July 2012 6:59PM Gateshead
Picture break up an all bbc channels and dave

POSTCODE: NE10 8JP

Roof mounted aerial.
Colin Howard
Tuesday 31 July 2012 6:13PM
Just found this website and hope you may be able to help with a long standing problem of periodic appalling reception from Bilsdale transmitter on Freeview. I can see the transmitter at this location in South Middlesbrough(TS7)!! Last weekend was just the latest (pm27/7 through to lunchtime 29/7) BBC1 and BBC2 from Bilsdale (C34) were unwatchable due to pixcellation and frequent complete drop outs. ITV (C21) was perfectly OK. (Appeared that any Tx over c550MHz was affected, lesser frequencies were OK)Changing to analogue there was also poor reception with some ghosting and vertical bars appearing on the picture and popping and loss of Nicam sound at the same time as the digital signal completely disappeared This disturbance seemed to be happening in time with that on the digital signal. I have carefully checked all the appliances (and thermostats) in the house and found no correlation to the poor digital pictures.
My conclusion is that there appears to be a periodic bout of external interference that can last for just a few minutes or up to a few days and then clears. No one will ever admit publicly that there is poor reception in this area. I am now getting a good signal again on BBC1 and BBC2 - but for how long...?.
I have put up with periodic poor performance until now but with the impending changeover and the loss of the alternative analogue signal I want to get to the bottom of the problem and have it sorted.
jb38
Wednesday 1 August 2012 7:54AM
Colin Howard: The BBC mux on this station will be switching over to high powered operation on September 12th and with the other channels doing likewise on 26th, as things are at present the station has a mixture of powers ranging from 4.8Kw (BBC) down to 1.6Kw (ArqB (11)Yesterday etc) but from 26th all PSB channels will be 100Kw and with the commercials being on 50Kw.

This being the case I would not advise trying to alter anything as nothing would really be achieved, because although reception difficulties aren't exactly unheard of in your area atmospheric conditions could also be playing a part in what you are complaining about plus there is work of an on going nature taking place at the transmitter in preparation for the switch over.
Jurgs
Sunday 5 August 2012 1:11PM Saltburn-by-the-sea
In Mickleby, TS13 5LU, they also have the same problem described by Colin Howard, above. BBC channels disappear and need constant retuning, while ITV channels etc are unaffected. This is not a device issue as it happens on both TV and HDD recorder. Signal strength and quality checks turn out alright while the channels are tuned in so it is not an aerial issue either. Please fix
jb38
Sunday 5 August 2012 3:50PM
Jurgs: I think that the situation was fully explained in my reply to Colin Howard (the posting you refer to) insomuch that if you are referring to reception from Bilsdale, then you should see a massive difference from September 12th as the BBC mux (and only it) will be switching over to high powered operation, and with the remaining channels doing likewise on September 26th at the same time as the start of the HD service.

As things are at present, the station operates on a mixture of powers ranging from 4.8Kw (BBC) down to 1.6Kw (ArqB Yesterday etc / epg12) but from 26th all PSB channels will be operating on 100Kw and with the commercials on 50Kw.

Needless to say, it will be necessary for viewers receiving their signal from Bilsdale to re-tune their TV's and boxes on "both" of these dates, as switchover to high powered operation also involves mux channel number changes.

STEPEHN GOODALL
Sunday 19 August 2012 10:54AM Filey
We live at yo14 9sb outside filey. can get all channels except BBC non of them all are pixelated outside Ariel what can we do.
Dave Lindsay
Sunday 19 August 2012 11:40AM
STEPEHN GOODALL: The BBC multiplex (Mux 1) is on lower power at 4.8kW. Mux D is even lower at 1.6kW. The rest are at 6kW.

There is probably little you can do until switchover in September.

You might be interested to know that now Olivers Mount has switched to digital, it is broadcasting at a higher power than its former analogue. If you were unable to receive it before, you "may" be able to do so now. This would obviously give you Yorkshire regional programming.

I can see on Streetview (photos taken January 2009, before Yorkshire switchover) that there are some vertically polarised aerials, although with Olivers Mount and the Hunmanby relay being in roughly the same direction, it isn't possible to sure which they are pointing at.

Hunmanby carries Public Service Broadcaster (PSB) channels only; they are BBC, ITV1, ITV2, Channel 4, E4, More 4, Channel 5, the four HD services and a few others. The other channels are the Commercial (COM) ones (ITV3, Pick TV, Yesterday, Film 4, Dave etc) and these are only carried by main transmitters, including Oliver's Mount and Bilsdale.

Oliver's Mount's PSBs' power is 2kW and its COMs are 1kW. You may be able to receive both; or, if its PSBs are only strong enough to reach your location, you could always combine (diplex) an aerial on Oliver's Mount with the Bilsdale one you have to give you the Yorkshire PSBs and COMs from Bilsdale (or PSBs from Bilsdale if you wish).

Unfortunately, if you can receive from Hunmanby, due to the UHF channels (frequencies) it and Bilsdale uses, it isn't possible to diplex two aerials in this situation. You could, of course, have two aerials and feed them into separate receivers.
Dave Lindsay
Sunday 19 August 2012 12:01PM
Stephen Goodall: Check that, for BBC services (BBC One, BBC Two etc), that it is tuned to UHF channel 34 by viewing the signal strength screen whilst on one of those channels. This is Bilsdale; Oliver's Mount is on C57 and Hunmanby is on C48.

If it turns out that it is tuned to C57 or C48, then run the automatic tuning scan through and unplug the aerial when it gets to 45% (or when it gets past UHF channel 42 if it gives these whilst scanning). This will scan channels used by Bilsdale, but miss out those of the two other stations.

Of course, it could be that Bilsdale's C34 isn't good enough to serve you, so you may find that your receiver won't pick it up.
Dave Lindsay
Sunday 19 August 2012 1:09PM
Stephen Goodall: The Digital UK Postcode Predictor is now back on and it "thinks" that you will have "good" reception from Oliver's Mount, including the COMs, albeit that COM6 is "variable" now until September, presumably because Pontop Pike is currently broadcasting analogue on the same channel, but isn't co-channel after switchover. With this in mind, it may well be OK now.

One thing I've just noticed, which I didn't pick up on before, is that Mux D from Bilsdale (Yesterday, Film 4 etc) is on C42, which is co-channel with one of Hunmanby's. It is also the one on the lowest power, so you "may" find that it is non-existant, or intermittent. I guess that the lower power is due to it being broadcast on a channel (frequency) that is re-used elsewhere in (relatively) close proximity, such as is the case here. Therefore, it's to protect, or reduce the possibility of interference being caused to those watching the output of the other (co-channel) transmitter(s).
egh
Monday 20 August 2012 9:21PM
Bilsdale transmitter. One problem for people living in parts of Cleveland is the ridge of the Eston Hills. The terrain map suggests that there should be line of sight transmission to Bilsdale whereas, in fact, I have a high ridge of ground directly in the way and we have always had better reception from Pontop Pike.

When Bilsdale first started transmitting we switched to the new transmitter but experienced severe ghosting due to structures on the Wilton Site and changed back. Friends living close by still viewing Bilsdale are still reporting problems although my wife, who acts as my detector, has said we are rarely experiencing them and, hopefully, when the radiated power is increased they will vanish
Transmitter engineering
Tuesday 21 August 2012 4:54PM
BILSDALE transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV (Four, Cbeebies, Parliament, 3... Weak Signal from 13:55 today to 15:06 today BBC Digital TV (One, Two, Three, CBBC, News) Weak Signal from 13:55 today to 15:43 today [BBC]
Transmitter engineering
Wednesday 22 August 2012 4:52AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV (Four, Cbeebies, Parliament, 3... Weak Signal from 13:55 yesterday to 15:06 yesterday BBC Digital TV (One, Two, Three, CBBC, News) Weak Signal from 13:55 yesterday to 15:43 yesterday [BBC]
Transmitter engineering
Thursday 23 August 2012 4:52AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV (Four, Cbeebies, Parliament, 3... Weak Signal from 13:55 on 21 Aug to 15:06 on 21 Aug BBC Digital TV (One, Two, Three, CBBC, News) Weak Signal from 13:55 on 21 Aug to 15:43 on 21 Aug [BBC]
john B
Saturday 25 August 2012 11:24AM
I have a Sharpe HD tv with built in Freeview. I live in TS70PS and the HD Freeview will be on next month Sept2012. Will I need a new HD FREEVIEW Box or will my HD TV adjust to the the better resoloution automatically?
Dave Lindsay
Saturday 25 August 2012 12:47PM
john B: If you post the model number then we can check on the specifications.

Some TVs, often branded with the "HD Ready" logo, can show HD pictures, but do not have the ability to receive Freeview HD signals. They only have a tuner capable of receiving DVB-T signals, which is the format of standard definition broadcasts. They therefore require a separate box if they are to show broadcast HD pictures.

Freeview HD signals are broadcast using the DVB-T2 format, and hence TVs with tuners that can receive DVB-T2 (as well as DVB-T) can pick-up the Freeview HD signals without the need for a separate box.
jim
Monday 27 August 2012 4:37PM
i live in middlesbrough town centre and for the past few days i've been having trouble with channels 3, 4, 5 and a few others. usually if these channels are down, most of the others are as well. but this time it's not the case. is anyone else experiencing similar problems?.. on a side not, i haven't been able to get bbc channels for a long time, with the exception of bbc 4
Dorothy
Thursday 30 August 2012 9:30AM
Like Jim I have experienced a complete loss of Channels 3 4 and 5 even after retuning (3 times). The loss is only on my 2 digital TVs (Toshiba and Samsung) and not on any of my 4 digital boxes.
Kevin
Friday 31 August 2012 2:17PM
I live in Stocckton on Tees TS19 and I was watching BBC HD Paralympic opening ceremony along with other programmes in HD on my new SONY HD TV (Which means I have the facility to receive and show HD programmes)
After e programme retune all HD Channels had gone this was done yesterday 30th August
What happened to them please?
Are they reappearing?
Robert Hill
Friday 31 August 2012 8:52PM
Kevin. juat a question? Where do you receive television from? Bilsdale Transmitter or the Pontop Pike? If its Bilsdale, you will not be receiving HD yet,not till the 26th September (DSO 2). Now if it is from Pontop Pike that is transmitting HD.
By the way the Paralympics are Channel 4.
Transmitter engineering
Monday 3 September 2012 11:06AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV (One, Two, Three, CBBC, News) Weak Signal from 17:42 yesterday to 19:09 yesterday [BBC]
ERIC ARMSTRONG
Monday 3 September 2012 11:45AM Guisborough
I HAVE A HIGH GAIN AERIAL ON THE ROOF, POINTING TO THE ESTON BOOSTER. WHAT MUST I DO ON 12th. SEPT.???
Dave Lindsay
Monday 3 September 2012 12:01PM
ERIC ARMSTRONG: On 12th September the PSB1/BBCA multiplex will come on air. This will give you all the BBC standard definition services plus BBC radio.

Analogue BBC One will take the place of analogue BBC Two. This is so that PSB1 can go on the same UHF channel (frequency) as the former BBC One analogue.

ITV and Channel 4 analogue will continue until 26th September when they will be replaced with the other PSB digital channels.

The Eston transmitter will only carry Public Service channels; the Commercial ones only broadcast from main transmitters and larger relays.

Public Service channels carry BBC standard definition, BBC radio, ITV1, ITV1+1, ITV1HD, ITV2, Channel 4, Channel 4+1, Channel 4 HD, E4, More4 and Channel 5. That's the lot from Eston.
Dave Lindsay
Monday 3 September 2012 12:20PM
Eric Armstrong: There should be no need to adjust your aerial for reception from Eston.

"If" you are to ever receive the Commercial channels (ITV3, Pick TV, Yesterday, Film4, Dave etc) on terrestrial, then you will have to receive from Bilsdale. I say "if", because it may not be a given given Roseberry Topping is in the way.
Neil Osborne
Monday 3 September 2012 7:38PM
Hi,

I seem to have lost all channels except bbc1,2,3, cbbc, bbc news and red button. This remains the case no matter how many times I retune. I have always had excellent reception of all channels

Regards
Transmitter engineering
Tuesday 4 September 2012 5:04AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Freeview BBC Digital TV (One, Two, Three, CBBC, News) Weak Signal from 17:42 on 02 Sep to 19:09 on 02 Sep [BBC]
Michael Pickles
Thursday 6 September 2012 3:22PM
I live in Pudsey, Leeds. My TV has always picked up Tyne Tees for analogue (Bilsdale?) but Yorkshire for Digital (Emley? I believe after having a new aerial around 4 years ago). Around 23:15 on 31 August,Digital went to no signal and has remained that way ever since, I now recieve no channels on either TV, attempts to retune one has lost all channels in the EPG. Tyne Tees analogue has also disappeared. Any suggestions please?
Dave Lindsay
Thursday 6 September 2012 5:55PM
Michael Pickles: First and foremost, it is good practice to have the receiver tuned to the transmitter to which the aerial faces. Bilsdale and Emley are in different directions, so at least one must be wrong.

The transmitter that a TV tunes itself to during the automatic tuning process is not forced to be the "right" one for the aerial. Thus, in some cases it is necessary to tune manually or carry out some other workaround in order to get the right transmitter. Not doing so can mean poor reception.


When one encounters "no signal", however tempting, it is usually advisable not to retune because this simply results in the tuned channels being wiped from the memory.

Only in cases where changes have been made at the transmitter end should retuning be carried out. If it turns out that the TV has suddenly "forgotten" the tuned channels, then this tends to indicate a fault with the device.

On the basis that the problem exists with two receivers, it would appear that they are not at fault. By retuning you have compounded the issue by erasing the tuning information from the receivers' memories.


If the Bilsdale analogue signals disappeared, then this perhaps suggests something with your aerial setup. How is the signal distributed? If it is a powered amplifier then it may be at fault. You should try bypassing it by connecting the feed from the aerial directly to a feed to one of your TVs. You will, of course, then have to carry out a retune once you have done this (because you wiped the memory).

If your aerial points to Bilsdale, then bear in mind that its digital signals are still pre-switchover and therefore low power. They may be weak or non-existant at your location. Contrast that with the Emley digital signals which will be as strong as the former analogue (because it has switched to digital and Bilsdale hasn't).

If your aerial points to Bilsdale then can you not receive from Emley or another transmitter that carries Yorkshire programming? The fact that you can do so even though the aerial faces the wrong way (assuming it points to Bilsdale) suggests that this may be a possibility.
Michael Pickles
Friday 7 September 2012 1:41PM
Dave Lindsay
- Thank you for the detailed advice. I have found some more information. The house initially had 2 aerials downstairs to Bilsdale, upstairs to Emley. These where upgraded to one shared aerial to Emley around 3 or 4 years ago and upstairs has an amplifier. I have tried bypassing that as you suggested upstairs with no luck. so looks like I will get someone out to check the aerial.
Dave Lindsay
Friday 7 September 2012 2:26PM
Michael Pickles: When you do get it working, if your receiver does default to Bilsdale during its automatic scan, you should be able to avoid this by having the aerial unplugged for the first 30% of the scan.

This is probably not an issue now as Bilsdale is still on low (pre-switchover) power. It switches next Wednesday and Wednesday 26th.

From that point, the digital signals should be of equivalent strength to that of the current analogue. As analogue receivers sometimes default to Bilsdale, so "may" digital ones, although it probably depends on how each "decides" which signals to go with having completed the scan.
Dave Lindsay
Friday 7 September 2012 2:53PM
Michael Pickles: I wonder if you have a masthead amp as well. This will require a separate power supply which could perhaps have failed (or the amp itself has failed).

This may be built in to the distribution amplifier (the one with multiple outputs).

An amplifier with no power to it will give nothing out. That's what makes me wonder if you have a mast-head amp that is now acting as a block for the signal (either through failure of itself or its power supply).
Ian Taylor
Tuesday 11 September 2012 8:09AM Middlesbrough
Is there a specific time on 12th and 26th September when I should retune or do I just wait until my picture disappears and then do it?
Dave Lindsay
Tuesday 11 September 2012 9:38AM
Ian Taylor: Bilsdale, as is common with all main stations, is expected to be switched by 6am:

www.digitaluk.co.uk link icon Digital UK - Relay transmitter switching times

I believe that the analogue is usually switched off some time after midnight and before 1am. When the digital comes on air is dependent on how long it takes the engineers to make the necessary changes. Other transmitters have been an hour or two, so the 6am deadline is probably just to allow plenty of time should things not go according to plan.
Mark Fletcher
Tuesday 11 September 2012 3:31PM Halifax
Ian Taylor,Middlesborough.One indicator as far as DSO1 is concerned is the programme "China on Four Wheels" tonight on BBC2 starting around 11.20pm and finishing around 12.20am one hour later in the early hours of tomorrow morning.If you were watching this on BBC2 analogue there is a 50/50 chance that once this programme ends probably one minute later,the BBC2 analogue signal will suddenly disappear,or it may suddenly switch off after the programme passes half way around 12.01am.It just depends,a case of wait and see,but one indicator before the BBC2 analogue signal disappears for good is a gradual or sudden deterioration of the BBC2 analogue signal prior to sudden switch off.After the BBC2 analogue signal is switched off permanently it could be as early as 15 minutes later when the new 100kw high powered post-digital BBCA multiplex on frequency 26 vacated by the old BBC2 analogue comes on air dependent on everything running smoothly,if not then much later even up to 6am from the main Bilsdale transmitter itself.
My advice keep watching,blink and you will miss it !
Thomas
Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:09PM Leeds
I live in an area served best by Emley Moor, but I can pick up a weak signal from Bilsdale through my existing aerial. It's quite fuzzy, but good enough to see what's going on.
I wonder if Bilsdale's high-power transmissions will be visible here? I'd prefer to keep Emley Moor as my transmitter, but as some TVs run on a first come first served basis I might get Emley's channels relegated to the 800s when I retune.

My aerial is a B group rather than K or A, (and is pointing at Emley) so that should help filter out Bilsdale. We'll see tomorrow when DSO stage 1 is complete.
jb38
Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:51PM
Thomas: Well, when Bilsdale's BBC switches to high power operation tomorrow you should possibly be able to receive it on the rear of your aerial as its only 2 degrees out, albeit Bilsdales BBC is only predicted as providing a variable level of reception on the given post code, and on the 26th when the other muxes switch to high powered operation the HD service joins the variable heading of BBC1, the three commercial channels not shown as being possible to receive. (in theory anyway!)

Regarding tuning, as Bilsdale's PSB transmitters use lower channel numbers and which may be picked up first, you can get over this by removing the aerial and carry out an auto-scan whilst watching the progress bar, and as soon as the scan reaches approx Ch40 immediately reconnect the aerial as Emley Moor uses Ch41 for its HD service.

If though this is difficult to achieve because of the type of tuning menu in your TV or box then erase the channels already stored by scanning without the aerial connected, then after having reconnected same manually tune in each of Emley Moors channels one at a time.

Ch47 - 44 - 41(HD) - 51 - 52 - 48

Mark Fletcher
Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:54PM Halifax
Thomas,Leeds.Well not long to go now.However you stated your group B aerial should filter out Bilsdale,but come DSO2 in two weeks time the 50kw COM multiplexes SDN,ArqA and ArqB from Bilsdale on frequencies 43,46 and 40 respectively will instead possibly store these instead of the Emley Moor equivalents and those will not store in the 800+ channels list after Bilsdale completes DSO2.The 100kw PSB multiplexes BBCA,D3+4 and BBCB (HD) from Bilsdale itself on frequencies 26 (the former soon to come on within 1 hour,etc),29 and 23 respectively (the latter two in two weeks time) are probably unlikely to be stored first as such but you never know.Unless your appliance can scan manually an autonmatic scan can be very troublesome in your locality.
Thomas
Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:55PM Leeds
Watching Bilsdale right now, 23:50 BBC ONE analogue appears to have gone off-air. I thought it was BBC TWO that was supposed to go off for DSO1?
Mark Fletcher
Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:59PM Halifax
Well not long to go now,this being my last text before BBC2 analogue goes off permanently very soon,who knows the programme China on Four Wheels currently on could be either switched off anytime now or goes off after the programme has finished transmission.
Mark Fletcher
Wednesday 12 September 2012 12:00AM Halifax
Thomas,Leeds.Yes BBC1 analogue from Bilsdale is off.
Thomas
Wednesday 12 September 2012 12:15AM Leeds
All analogue channels from Bilsdale now off except for BBC TWO. Not sure what they're doing; it's as if they think it's DSO2 and have turned off the wrong transmitters!
Mark Fletcher
Wednesday 12 September 2012 12:25AM Halifax
BBC2 analogue from Bilsdale switched off for good at 12.21am just as the programme China on Four Wheels almost ended as the end credits were just starting.
The other four analogue channels BBC1,ITV1,Channel 4 and Channel 5 are all off but its another two weeks for them before they are all switched off for good.
Mark Fletcher
Wednesday 12 September 2012 2:03AM Halifax
Sorry it took me so long but after trying with the borrowed group W wideband larger aerial,set-top aerial,signal booster/amplifier,etc,despite its difficulties i have managed to receive the BBCA multiplex from Bilsdale on frequency 26 in my location the far north of Halifax,HX2 9JY house number 3,using the larger borrowed group W wideband with amplifier on,Signal Quality 99% Signal Strength 67%,without the signal booster it occasionally pixellates,however the set-top aerial with and without signal amplification gives poor results at best frequent pixellations at worst No Signal.And before i mention it the larger aerial is in my bedroom so a mixed response to the 100kw BBCA mux from Bilsdale for now,interesting to see in two weeks time whether the D3+4 mux from Bilsdale on frequency 29 is attainable in my location despite a single frequency interference issue concerning Waltham SDN mux also on frequency 29 normally not receivable unless an inversion effect situation lifts that signal towards my abode.No BBCB (HD) im afraid as my box is non-HD but the 50kw COM mux's come two weeks time is less promising as far as i am concerned,still there's no harm as at least Emley Moor is my main transmitter plus Belmont and Winter Hill as well as Bilsdale are ideal alternatives in emergency situations.
Mark Fletcher
Wednesday 12 September 2012 2:17AM Halifax
One thing i forgot to add the transmitter name as far as Bilsdale is concerned on my set-top box is Teeside .
jim
Wednesday 12 September 2012 3:04AM
goodbye analogue bbc 2.. just hope digital is as consistent as u where
Transmitter engineering
Wednesday 12 September 2012 4:55AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Off Air; DSO related from 23:49 yesterday to 00:30 today [BBC]
jb38
Wednesday 12 September 2012 7:42AM
Mark Fletcher: I will be interested to see if Thomas can receive the ITV mux or any of the commercial muxes come 26th, as although you are predicted to receive both BBC and the HD service on that date with a status of good, (BBC presently good) ITV being on a variable status but with no commercials possible, Thomas on the other hand is only predicted to receive BBC and the HD service on a variable status and no commercials whatsoever, that including ITV.
Thomas
Wednesday 12 September 2012 10:33AM Leeds
I receive all the Freeview multiplexes from Emley Moor and am quite happy with that. From 6am I checked and Bilsdale analogue 1, 3, 4, and 5 have come back on. I also retuned my Freeview TV and it picked up the new BBCA Mux from Bilsdale, putting its channels in the 800s. Emley Moor's channels remained on their normal numbers.

The signal from Bilsdale is viewable, but the quality is very low and I get occasional blockiness or freezing on it. Still, I can sort of choose between regions for BBC News now.
Ian Taylor
Wednesday 12 September 2012 5:02PM Middlesbrough
Thanks to Dave Lindsay and Mark Fletcher for the detailed info on the switchover. I have retuned and everything seems fine.
Jake
Wednesday 12 September 2012 5:57PM
why is bbc 1 on channel 2?
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 12 September 2012 7:45PM
Jake: If you have BBC One where BBC Two analogue was, then this has happened because the new BBC digital (Freeview) signal is on the UHF channel (frequency) that BBC One used to occupy.

At the first stage of switchover at all transmitters, BBC Two analogue is turned off to allow for BBC standard definition digital services.

In some cases the UHF channel used by the BBC standard definition services is that of one of the other analogue channels and in such circumstances the other channel takes the place of BBC Two analogue for the fortnight until switchover completes.

If this is the case, then you cannot be receiving your TV directly from Bilsdale as its new BBC digital signal is on the channel used by its BBC Two (and therefore BBC One analogue remains where it has always been). However, its relays at Bainbridge, Guisborough, Peterlee and Whitby are all broadcasting BBC One analogue on the channel that was formerly used by BBC Two analogue and hence BBC One will appear under button number 2.
Mike Davison
Wednesday 12 September 2012 8:57PM
Just for the record, in Wetherby, Bilsdale ch26 is receivable off the back of my loft mounted Emley Moor antenna(which is a wide-band type) at 23% signal and 90-100% quality on my Humax PVR and so is quite usable. Analogue reception off the back of this antenna was unwatchable. I'm looking forward to DSO2 at Bilsdale. Also according to your maps for Emley coverage, I am outside of its 'green' area. Wrong! I have had solid reception of all mpx's pre- and post-DSO with HD.
Transmitter engineering
Thursday 13 September 2012 7:57AM
BILSDALE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Off Air; DSO related from 23:49 on 11 Sep to 00:30 yesterday [BBC]



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