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4G at 800MHz (at800) Freeview reception issues

When 800MHz 4G mobile broadband services start there will be 1 multiplex in the higher risk range (C21-23, C30, C59-60): C59: D3+4
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WINTER HILL transmitter - Over the next week Winter Hill main transmitter: TV (digital) Liable to interruption, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. Digital tick


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Radiation patterns

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The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.


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Winter Hill transmitter Freeview broadcasts

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxAerial positionFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 horizontal max
C50 (706.0MHz)726m64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One North West, 2 BBC Two England, 7 BBC Three, 9 BBC Four, 70 CBBC Channel, 71 CBeebies, 80 BBC News, 81 BBC Parliament, 301 301, plus 12 others

PSB2
D3+4
 horizontal max
C59 (778.0MHz)726m64QAM 8K 2/3
24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV (Granada), 4 Channel 4 North ads, 5 Channel 5 The North ads, 6 ITV 2, 13 Channel 4+1 North ads, 14 More 4, 28 E4, 33 ITV +1 (Granada),

PSB3
BBCB
 horizontal max
C54- (737.8MHz)726m256QAM 32KE 2/3
40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
100,000W
Channel icons
101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 horizontal max
C58 (770.0MHz)726m64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
10 ITV 3, 20 G.O.L.D. (not free), 25 Dave ja vu, 26 Home (not free), 27 ITV 2 +1, 30 5*, 31 5USA, 34 ESPN UK (not free), 38 Quest, 39 The Zone, 44 Channel 5 +1, 72 CITV, plus 22 others

COM5
ArqA
 horizontal max
C49 (698.0MHz)726m64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
11 PICK TV, 12 Dave, 17 Really, 29 E4+1, 32 Movie Mix, 46 Challenge, 48 Food Network, 82 Sky News, 87 Community Channel, plus 9 others

COM6
ArqB
 horizontal max
C55 (746.0MHz)726m64QAM 8K 3/4
27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
100,000W
Channel icons
15 Film 4, 18 4Music, 19 Yesterday, 21 VIVA, 24 ITV 4, 41 Sky Sports 1 (not free), 42 Sky Sports 2 (not free), 47 4seven, 83 Al Jazeera English, 85 RT English , plus 21 others

MEN
 horizontal -20dB
C57 (762.0MHz)0mQSPK 8K 1/2
6.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
1,000W
Channel icons
51 Movies4Men, 52 Movies4Men +1, 53 Sony SAB TV Asia, 56 Capital TV, plus 2 others



Regional news from the Winter Hill transmitter


BBC North West Tonight 3.1m homes 11.7%
from Salford M50 2QH, 22km southeast
to BBC North West region - 90 masts.

ITV Granada Reports 3.1m homes 11.6%
from Salford M50 2EQ, 22km southeast
to ITV Granada region - 80 masts.

How the transmission frequencies change over time

years1956~851984-971997-981998-20092009-1310/4/13-2013-182019-
aerial groupVHFC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D EWK
C9ITV
C12BBCtv
C22SDN
C25ArqA
C28ArqB
600C31com7
C37com8
C39BBCB
C42D3+4
C45BBCA
C48C5C5
700C49 ArqAArqA
C50 BBCABBCA
C54-BBCB-BBCB-BBCB
C55BBC1BBC1BBC1ArqBArqBArqB
C56+1local
C57MENMENMEN
C58SDNSDNSDN
C59ITVITVITVD3+4D3+4D3+4
C60+C
800C61ArqA
C62BBC2BBC2BBC2BBCA
C63+D
C65C4C4C4
C66+2
C67+B
C68+A

orange background for multiplexes names moregreen background for transmission frequencieslilac background for power levels in watts800MHz band: 4G mobile to start in 2013700MHz band: possible 4G in 2019 more600MHz band: new or moved digital TV services more
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W
Italics for analogue, digital switchover was Wednesdays 4th November and 2nd December 2009.

  • Ofcom have projected that a local television service for Manchester including Bolton, Bury, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport could use an Interleaved Frequency on the Winter Hill transmitter using C56
  • Ofcom have projected that a local television service for Liverpool including St Helens, Widnes, Wigan, Wirral could use an Interleaved Frequency on the Winter Hill transmitter using C56
  • Ofcom have projected that a local television service for Preston including Blackpool could use an Interleaved Frequency on the Winter Hill transmitter using C56
  • COM7, COM8 projected for 2013-16. COM7 and COM8 to operate as Saddleworth,Storeton, Winter Hill SFN.

Comparison of old analogue and current digital signal levels

Analogue 1-4 500kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, com7, com8, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 100kW
Analogue 5(-16dB) 12.5kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*(-17dB) 10kW
MEN(-27dB) 1000W

History of Channel 3 in the Winter Hill transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Granada Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only.


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Tim Drinkall
Monday 6 September 2010 11:50AM
I seem to be having problems with my digital reception. My post code is M203DR. The digital picture keeps breaking up, frezing and then dropping the signal for a short period. Thus making it impossible to watch the TV. It seems to be happening most frequently on the BBC chanels, but it does seem to occur accross all. Can you tell me if work is being done on the Winterhill transmitter and if so when eill it be resolved. If no work is in progress can you advise me what I can do to resolve the problems. I have had a perfect picture prior to the last couple of days, everything has been fine even before the final switchover, therefore I assume my arial is ok. Many thanks
Mike Dimmick
Monday 6 September 2010 2:54PM Reading
Tim Drinkall: Some interruptions may be due to work on the mast or transmitting equipment (high-power electronics based at ground level). The planning application submitted to Chorley Borough Council indicates that they intended to remove the old analogue reserve antenna, right at the top of the mast, but it was still observed to be there in April 2009. Likewise the old low-power digital antenna was due to be removed, along with Channel 5's antenna.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that your aerial is OK. If it's been raining a lot, have someone check that the connection point on the aerial is waterproofed and that any amplifier or splitter devices mounted outside are also properly waterproofed. If it's been windy, check that the aerial is still mounted properly, with the elements pointing in the right direction.

Birds also like to roost on aerials. I'm not sure how much effect this has on reception, except that it tends to bend the aerial and/or mast due to the bird's weight.

If you had an aerial 'upgrade' before switchover, it's possible that you now have too much signal at times. If you have any booster amplifiers, try removing them. What model of box or TV do you have, and what does it say for signal strength and quality?
Briantist
Tuesday 7 September 2010 6:48AM
Netbod: "What TV bit rate (in Mbps) on SD digital is equivalent to a perfect UHF picture on analogue ? "

I once, many years ago, helped created a stand at the IBC exhibition where we had a big pile of TV sets and we fed them with the same high unencoded quality source to lots of different encoders.

Generally speaking (and this was a long while ago when the technology wasn't as advanced) but at 8Mbps, no-one can't tell the difference.
Briantist
Tuesday 7 September 2010 8:01AM
Nedbod: Yes, that is all correct. Basically Channel 5 has swapped a slot onto PSB2 with ITV3, which was part of the deal that got ITV1 HD onto PSB3.

This was because it was originally planned that Channel 5 would be on PSB3 taking space from the BBC, but the conversion of PSB3 to HD meant that ITV got PSB3 space for HD in the PSB2 swap for Channel 5...
Pat
Saturday 11 September 2010 4:10PM
Not sure if anyone else has had any problem today,but just in case:

Came down today and switched tv on, no signal on any channel, but guide working.

TV has internal Freeview, as I was able to get picture via BT-Vision box, assumed it was down to tvs' internal Freeview.

As I was clearing space to pop back off tv, my middle lad tells me his Freeview box lost all signals last night.

Both were sorted by re-scanning. After re-scanning, now have Sky3+1 on 44 and Virgin 1 is now Channel One on 20. Sky3+1 not showing on BT-V guide?

Looks as if some boxes are going to need re-scanning.
Briantist
Saturday 11 September 2010 4:23PM
Pat: Yes, this can be the case when the channel names change for some devices.
Pete
Saturday 11 September 2010 5:47PM
So no surprise that the bit rates that are currently using fall well short of this 8 Mbps which goes a long way to explaing why there is a noticeable drop of picture quality post switchover, very noticeable during sports programmes.
Graham
Saturday 11 September 2010 6:22PM Frodsham
My channels gone too, re-scan doesn't help. Surely not due to the name change of Virgin One - that happened weeks ago!

Pat: Are you still getting channels on the same... errr.. channel? (BBC1 on C62, for example)?
Briantist
Saturday 11 September 2010 7:36PM
Pete: There wasn't actually that much of a change to the bitrates at switchover, given that PSB2 and Mux 2 have the same bitrate and the same services.

The BBC services are basically the same, even though some channels have moved from Mux B to PSB1, this was accommodated by the mode change.
Pat
Saturday 11 September 2010 9:14PM
Graham: As far as I can tell,yes. Can't see what channel is on what carrier via tv, BT-V showing same as before.
Briantist
Saturday 11 September 2010 9:19PM
Pat: They are all listed at the top of the page.
Pat
Saturday 11 September 2010 10:42PM
Only difference I can find is GemsTV is on C58 also CNN.

This is from BTV box as internal Freeview on tv doesn't show freq/Cxx.
Graham
Sunday 12 September 2010 9:38AM Frodsham
I've re-scanned, and now have channels, but they're from the Welsh transmitter (BBC1 is on C45). I only have a small number of channels (Wales is too far away for a good signal).

It's as if Winter Hill is dead... though, presumably, someone would have noticed... :)
Mike Dimmick
Sunday 12 September 2010 12:28PM Reading
Graham: does the EPG list every channel, but you get a 'no signal' message if you try to select that channel?

I suspect that your box is one of those that stores the first version of a channel that it sees, rather than the strongest version. Moel-Y-Parc transmits on lower frequencies than Winter Hill. You may well find that the channels from Winter Hill are stored in the 800s.

There are several ways to avoid this:

1. Disconnect the aerial when rescanning until it gets to C55, about 72% of the way through.

2. Clear all channels and tune manually using the channel numbers listed at the Winter Hill page.

3. Add an attenuator to drop the signals from Moel-Y-Parc into the noise. You will probably need to remove it again after rescanning.

4. Rotate the aerial to point slightly further east of Winter Hill, which should reduce the signal picked up from Moel-Y-Parc

5. If you have a wideband aerial, change it for a Group C/D aerial, which doesn't pick up as much signal from Moel-Y-Parc's transmissions.
Graham
Sunday 12 September 2010 1:08PM Frodsham
I've tried manually scanning Winter Hill channels, but they report "no channels found". Before, it has always picked up Winter Hill, as the signal is much stronger, except during certain weather conditions (in which case, selecting channels to scan manually did the trick). I've been here five years, so I've had to retune several times before. Yesterday, all channels suddenly appeared dead (no retune), with EPG showing the correct service name, but out-of-date programme info. Manual retune didn't help, and automatic retune picked up Moel-Y-Parc (badly).

I live in a block with a shared aerial - I haven't talked to my neighbours yet, but all the distribution equipment appears to be working (lights are on), and I obviously get some signal (so it's not completely broken). The only possibility I can see is that something changed with the aerial itself... but between midnight Friday and Saturday morning... seems unlikely. Or... some issue caused by an automatic software upgrade on the FreeView box (Hitachi, and it's set to automatic download). However, running the software update manually (didn't appear to download anything), and switching the box off for fifteen seconds and then back on, has not helped.

Just seemed a coincidence that two other people had a complete loss of all channels at the same time, suggesting the problem might lie outside the system here.

Ah! I have BBC1 and BBC2 (from Winter Hill) on 801 and 802... VERY weak! And my neighbour also has no TV. So either there is a sudden problem with our aerial, or there has been a drop in signal strength from Winter Hill...
Mike Dimmick
Sunday 12 September 2010 5:01PM Reading
Graham: that sounds like a problem with the distribution equipment or cabling. Often you find that when an amplifier is not working, that the frequencies it should be passing end up with lower levels than the ones it should be rejecting.

Contact your landlord, agent, or other property manager.
Graham
Sunday 12 September 2010 5:42PM Frodsham
The people in the next building have TV, so I'd have to agree with your assessment.

Interesting information about amplifiers... clearly my electronics knowledge is weak! Is this more likely than an aerial issue? Had some bad weather (including an electrical storm, nearby) here last week, but not Friday night to my knowledge.

Unfortunately, the necessary people are away (!), so out of contact for the next, apparently. Guess I'll learn the joys of radio... :)

Anyway, cheers!

Graham.
colin
Monday 13 September 2010 8:45PM Wigan
i live i n hindley green and can not get a signal, the areil is new and the cables are also. any ideas that could explain why i get very little signal and the signal i get flickers on and off to the point i cant watch any channels.

cheers
Briantist
Tuesday 14 September 2010 8:24AM
colin: You are very close to a powerful trasnmitter, so you should have no problems.

What sort of aerial do you have and is it on the roof?
Transmitter engineering
Friday 17 September 2010 5:14PM
WINTER HILL transmitter - Over the next week Winter Hill main transmitter: TV (analogue) working normally, TV (digital) Liable to interruption, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]
Transmitter engineering
Friday 17 September 2010 5:14PM
WINTER HILL transmitter - Over the next week Winter Hill main transmitter: TV (analogue) working normally, TV (digital) Liable to interruption, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]
Jk
Saturday 18 September 2010 1:55PM Wigan
Hello, I too live in Hindley Green Nr Wigan and I have just bought a new TV with a HD Tuner built in. My picture is not very good while having on Channel 1 3 5 But on HD is very good. The problem I am having is when you get a group of people in one frame there is fussiness around there hair or face or any fast movement. I have a very good digital Ariel so I should not have this problem.
j bollans
Saturday 18 September 2010 4:33PM
I have found since the switchover my box needs re tuning on a regular basis but the last few days i can not watch any bbc chanells and certian other chanels they have just disapeared any one else with these problems
Pete
Saturday 18 September 2010 7:52PM
My comment re drop in bit rate was more related to the equivant to produce a good reception analogue picture, compared with what is now being transmitted, rather than the difference between pre switchover and post switchover FREEVIEW. Sorry if my post was in any way ambiguous.
Peter
Monday 20 September 2010 1:03PM
No ITV 4, Film 4, Yesterday, for the past few months. Last weekend BBC 1, 2, News Channel and many others unwatchable. I keep hearing how digital signals can be badly affected by prevailing weather conditions. We used to have 'prevailing weather conditions' before the digital switchover but I don't recall ever losing any of the, admittedly, limited number of available channels
Nedbod
Monday 20 September 2010 8:58PM
I don't recall there being that many fewer channels pre switchover from Winter Hill, only the power was less. In fact at this time there were more Standard Freeview multiplexes as one was lost to HD.
suzie watt
Sunday 26 September 2010 12:24PM
Searching for a copy of a VHS film 1985 Show us your Muscles ! I know it is a very long time ago now but would be delighted to find a copy as it was myself and Dennis Balmer who were featured in it and I have lost my copy. Tony Bulley was the Director for Northern Echoes at that time.Thanks Suzie Watt (nee _Cox).
Nedbod
Wednesday 29 September 2010 6:28PM
I live near Macclesfield and since I got rid of all my Panasonic equipment I have had no drop out or FREEVIEW picture break ups from Winter Hill (I am 29 miles away). The pixellation due to poor bit rates per channel is another matter altogether !!! Much worse on non BBC channels I notice, including ITV. Just compare their LIVE or recorded football picture with BBC ONE & TWO Freeview's.
michael
Thursday 30 September 2010 7:29AM
BREAK-UP - Nedbod, sounds like a sensitivity
issue with the Panny. Before DSO I searched in vain for web info comparing front-end sensitivity of DTT receivers - and found next to nothing. Those I had varied considerably, but I only found out post purchase :-) With higher power post DSO, sensitivity and dynamic range would still be an issue in fringe situations.
Briantist
Thursday 30 September 2010 7:57AM
suzie watt: Found you here - vintagemusclemags.com link icon Muscle & CO/British, number 11 - but I have no idea where you would find the video.
Perhaps the www.bfi.org.uk link icon 
BFI National Archive | BFI
can help?
Briantist
Thursday 30 September 2010 8:49AM
michael: The BBC R&D testing documents do give some values:

"Research by Randhawa et al [1], suggests that for outdoor suburban deployments ... in the UK, the hidden node margin will be as high as 40dB. This figure is based on outdoor sensing at 1.5m with a 0dBi antenna. Assuming a planned fieldstrength of 50dBμV/m at 10m, which would typically deliver –72dBm to a DTT set top box, ... For indoor deployment ... where building penetration and reflections further reduce signal level, the available signal strengths will typically be 20dB lower".

From www.bbc.co.uk link icon BBC - R&D - Publications - WHP182 .

There's also lots of good stuff in downloads.bbc.co.uk link icon BBC R&D IBC DTT tests .
Briantist
Thursday 30 September 2010 12:55PM
Jk: Check the settings on the TV to see if you have a "picture setting" called "sharpness". If you do, turn this down to zero, or turn it off.
Briantist
Thursday 30 September 2010 12:59PM
Pete: It is a very variable thing to compare "analogue" and "digital" reception, because so very few people were willing or able to obtain "perfect analogue" reception, whereas 100% of people with digital will get the "perfect digital" pictures.

Those lucky or informed enough to get a perfect (if 14:9) analogue picture will need to go for HD to see an improvement, but the 90% with poor reception before will have better from Freeview.
Briantist
Thursday 30 September 2010 1:00PM
j bollans: You might have too strong a signal now. If you have a booster or amplifier, remove it from your system.

If you don't, you can try fitting an attenuator, which cost around £5 to deal with the overload.
Pete
Friday 1 October 2010 2:05PM
I guess I am lucky to be able to see Winter Hill from my estate nr Macclesfield with no obstructions albeit 29 miles (or so) away.

I enjoyed near perfect pictures for 19 years.

A lot of ghosting in Mottram-in-Longdendale when I lived there however from Winter Hill and quite a lot of co-channel interference from GLOSSOP in the analogue days.
Pete
Friday 1 October 2010 2:08PM
Think I'll stay with standard Freeview for now. I like my new Toshiba hard-drive and prefer editing the ads out of progs, to HD Logo infested TV.
Pete
Friday 1 October 2010 2:15PM
Quite right Michael, it was only post switchover that the inadequacies of some equipment became apparent, with the manufacturers predictably in "TOTAL DENIAL MODE".

Typical of this day age, must close now as I'm about to morph into "Grumpy Old Man" mode.
michael
Saturday 2 October 2010 9:33AM
DTT RECEIVER SENSITIVITY. Thanks, Brian. One document was new to me. The bottom line was, to my mind, the need for reliable DTT receiver reviews which included comparative data on sensitivity from independent laboratory investigation. As stated, post DSO this will become less important for most, but still relevant in fringe areas.
Tony Heaton
Saturday 2 October 2010 1:46PM
Hi We have had a problem with the tv losing colour and going to black and white. This lasts for between two and twenty minutes at a time. Some neighbours are having similar problems. We have a new aeriel and cabling so suspect there is something else wrong? anybody having similar problems.
Tony
From Warrington
LutonFan
Monday 4 October 2010 6:18PM
Tony Heaton- There would appear to be an issue with some boxes, eg Goodmans gdr10, since Friday night.

It seems to be affecting some boxes that the Government use as part of their scheme to help the elderley. Possibly there has been a change in the signal which affects these boxes. It does not see to affecting IDTVs.

As I receive further information, I will keep you posted.
LutonFan
Monday 4 October 2010 6:22PM
Dave W- Try a power off reset, then reinstall the services via factory settings
Tony Heaton
Monday 4 October 2010 7:48PM
Since my first post have tried swapping my scart leads about. Had one expensive one and one that was supplied with my DVD player. Unfortunately the cheaper one was connected to my hard drive recorder and tv. Since swapping the reception went better, so I bought a Belkin gold plated terminals lead @£20 from Argos and put this on the hard drive to TV. So far so good, reception appears really good. Still think there must have been a change in signal because the set-up hadn't changed for months previously. Thanks to all for the info.
Chris.SE
Wednesday 6 October 2010 9:47AM
Regarding the Goodmans GDR10 problem mentioned by LutonFan about Tony Heaton's pictures going Black & White -
I have spoken to the Switchover Help Scheme helpline this morning as my elderly parents in-lawn have the same problem (Mendip Tx).
This is apparently a National problem - an issue to do with software ? (I think they mean firmware?) within the box being corrupt. Goodmans are supposedly producing an overair download to correct the problem as a matter of urgency!!!!! and we will get a phone call from the Help scheme as soon as it is available. What appals me is that this is the only place to date I can find it mentioned. A Google search gave nothing from Digital UK, the Help Scheme or the BBC - I'll be off to e-mail them all about this.

Brian, any chance you can give this issue some prominence, I'm told it affects all areas where the box is in use!!

As an aside Brian, how do I update my e-mail address on your system, if you are still sending updates to the old a/d they will be bouncing. The new a/d was put on this post.
Rgds.
Chris.SE
Wednesday 6 October 2010 12:28PM
Briantist:
Could you please sort out this email address thing as having put my latest address into the system it's not relating to all my previous posts. I cannot get to my old address at this time - it's dead.
Thanks.
LutonFan
Wednesday 6 October 2010 9:26PM Bedford
Chris.SE- Apparently, a temporary signal is being sent until a permanent solution can be implemented.
Briantist
Thursday 7 October 2010 10:55AM
Chris.SE: I've made the change for you.
Ron
Thursday 7 October 2010 3:52PM Bristol
I'm trying to fix a "functional" Goodmans GHDD 1782 DVBT (for a relative) which has old OTA software 1.2 installed. From reading blogs online there is or was an update some while ago. It seems the machine may also be a rebadged Technosonic PVR101. This latest update appears to cure some or all of the known idiosyncracies. Is there likely to be an update to this latest OTA software in the future? I've looked on the DTG website but as it is for professionals only, I cannot ask them the question. Can you advise please?
Ron
Thursday 7 October 2010 4:21PM Bristol
I meant to send my previous question to Briantist - sorry for the omission.
Briantist
Thursday 7 October 2010 10:22PM
Ron: There is a very limited amount of bandwidth on Freeview for the "engineering data channel" that provide the firmware upgrade.

The upgrades are broadcast in cycles, often months apart, usually for half a week at a time.

Re-broadcasts are made for older equipment, but these get further and further apart. You have, I presume, already seen www.dtg.org.uk link icon DTG :: DTT Receiver Downloads .

So, for an OTA ("over the air") upgrade you simply have to wait.

You might be able to upgrade using another method, but I can't see it being easy on a Goodmans box.
Chris.SE
Friday 8 October 2010 6:41AM
LutonFan: Thanks for the info. re the GDR10.

I've now had email responses from DigitalUK, the HelpScheme & the BBC. Information has been added to the HelpScheme website about the pictures going Black & White, and the BBC Reception advice has an added FAQ.
The BBC representative confirmed it was a transmission problem and BBC Distribution had been investigating and they now believe the issue has "substantially been resolved".

Briantist: thanks for the change, if needed I'll make any further post on that on the Feedback page.



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