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Hi on behalf of a friend of mine wn7 postcode he can only receive transmissions from moel y parc and not winter hill
Will the strength of moel y parc digital increase when analouge closes or will he have to rely on satellite
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Report this messagedave: yes, the strength of digital signals will be much stronger once the analogue signals have been removed.
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Report this messageMy postcode is CH64 6QW.I live right on the Dee Estuary at Parkgate and I can receive Freeview from the Moel Y Parc transmitter,which I can see, with a rooftop aerial and also most but not all channels using a set top aerial. I can also receive the analogue channels from the Wrekin.
My main concern when the switchover occurs is that I will only be able to receive the Welsh programmes. This does not worry me with regard to BBC 1 and ITV, but BBC2W has a totally different evening schedule to BBC2.
Have you any idea at this stage whether Moel Y Parc will also broadcast the BBC2 channel after the switchover, or will it be possible to receive Freeview from the Wrekin once the power has been increased.
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Report this messagePatrick Knight: generally speaking, if you can receive an analogue BBCone, BBC TWO or ITV1 variant on analogue now, you will AFTER SWITCHOVER be able to receive the same digital services. However, you MAY need a new wideband aerial as some transmitters will change group.
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Report this messageCan anyone confirm that moel y parc signal will get stronger and winter hill be reduced after switchover, I live in Wrecsam and am sick of north west news, I want to see the welsh cahnnels
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Report this messageHi
My post code is ch8 9dh. I can see Moel Y Parc transmitter from my house and have two rooftop aerials. We have been unable to receive BBC1 and BBC2 via either aerial for some time on digital, although there is no problem with analogue. Is this due to weak signal and if so when will the problem be resolved?
Thanks
Nev.
Posted by Nev. Morgan (
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Report this messageNev. Morgan: If you have TWO rooftop aerials, are they pointing at different transmitters? Please see
Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 for help on resolving the problem - but there is daytime work listed for this transmitter, 'Wales (NE) BBC TV breaks/weak signal 20/06-14/12 (Digital)'
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Report this messageI have lived at my present address in Bamber bridge, Preston, Lancs, for 12 yrs and have the same tv aerial on the roof, which to my knowledge is analouge.I have 4 freeview boxes currently working via a booster in the attic. When digtal comes in 2009/2010 will i have to change my aerial to a digital one to enable my freeview boxes to carry on working properly
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Report this messageI have a DVB lcd tv with Wide band arial picking up the Mux's from Moel y parc .
It fails to tune in Sky Sports News and also Sky News.
I assume this is because of low power at present on a particular mux ?
With the changeover in Dec 2009 will these channels be available in higher power and if so what will be the new mux/equipment it will run on. Many THANKS
Posted by K PARRY (
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Report this messageK PARRY: Please first see
Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - but if the problem is low power then you will get a much stronger signal after switchover.
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Report this messagei am in west manchester receiving a reasonable signal from wales.once winter hill turns full power will this overpower the moel-y-parc reception
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Report this messageUHF 405 LINE SWITCH OFF
The only info I can tell you is that 405 line TV in the UK ended on 3 Jan 1985. The final two transmitters to be switched off were:
Winter Hill at 0926 hrs
Emley Moor at 1441 hrs
I was also under the impression that 405 line switch off started in 1971 and not 1982. Perhaps this can be clarified? Thanks.
(map)Posted by James Robinson (
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Report this messageHi, I am attempting to set up my freeview boxes for the new digital channels from Moel y Parc.It would appear that the frequencies I need to search are 42 45 and 49.
However, an auto search reveals programmes on 40 and 56 also.
Any comments will be welcome.
Thanks,
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred: The services are on C42, C45, C48-, C49+,C51- and C52+.
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Report this messageThanks Briantist. I still don't see why I get itv4 etc. on ch 40 and sky 3 0n ch 56. Is this from somewhere else? Moel y Parc is 39 miles away but it is my nearest Welsh station.
I don't think Storeton points over here.
Cheers
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: The other channels you are receiving are from Winter Hill/Winter Hill B.These will be switched off on Wednesday as will analogue channel Five on C48 and replaced by the post switchover muxes.Moel-Y-Parc will also get mux ArqivaB on C48 from this day.
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Report this messageMany thanks for that.Hope it all works on Wednesday. At present I cannot get ch 42, 48, 49, 52. Perhaps I'm too far away even with a booster.
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting : I am surprised you cannot get the Channel 45 (BBC Multiplex) and Channel 49 (Commercial Multiplex which includes ITV1 Wales from Moel-y-Parc as I can receive them both very clearly in Macclesfield which is well over 39 miles away, more like 60 miles away !! Are you sure you have the correct aerial pointing in the right direction ?
Pete
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Report this messageHi Pete, ch45 is fine, but I will re align the aerial slightly as it is about 10 degrees out.(Is this very important?). It is a yellow one, if I remember rightly.
Thanks for that.
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageHi all, reception from Moel y Parc now quite good but no ch 42 signal at all. Could someone please remind me what I am missing. I find it difficult to sort out all the technical info, finding what comes from what mux.
Cheers,
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageHi Briantist, found it!
Thanks,
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: I hope you have what you need.
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Report this messageI live in St Asaph and receive digital channels from Moel-Y Parc, but I have noticed a change in channel signal strength. Up to about 6 weeks ago the BBC channels were very strong 100% strength and the ITV channels very Weak less than 25%, when it rained the ITV channels went off completed.now the ITV channels are strong and the BBC channels are weak. Do you have any explanation and how can I improve the bbc reception?
Thanks
Dave
Posted by Dave Widdows (
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Report this messageDave Widdows: If you have any boosters or amplifiers you might like to remove these. Also, you might be getting channels from Winter Hill now. Can you see
Manchester and North West - switch off ends Wednesday 2nd December | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 under "Digital Region Overlap".
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Report this messageHello again, just out of interest what do the pluses and minuses mean with the channels? i.e. c48-, c49+, c51-, c52+.
There is no problem, only curiosity.
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: They denote the "channel offset" of +/- 166Hz. This is used either to protect DVB transmissions on the edge of the Digital Dividend frequencies, or to prevent CCI on transmitters using the same frequency.
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Report this messageHello again, I was hoping to have had the digital switchover sorted by now but my 2nd digibox (for the recorder) just refuses to get anything except ch 45 (bbc). There is no ch 48 48 51 and 52 on the Goodmans gdb2.My "tv" digibox has no problems.
I've tried retuning several methods but to no avail. Before proper switchover last year it seemed ok. The ch 45 signal level is quite good but zero on the others.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: Do you have some form of splitter or booster to the second box? And it's not on the
TVs and boxes that do not support the 8k-mode | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 ?
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Report this messageHi Briantist,thanks for reply.Conditions are the same for both boxes, ie booster. (Tried with and without).Sorry I can't fathom the other part.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: What happens if you switch the boxes around?
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Report this messageHi again, just the same. I have swapped them over using the same leads many times but no change. The aerial booster has 2 outputs and I've tried both those too. I've removed the booster and varied it's gain, to try.
Cheers,
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: What do you mean by "no change"? Do you mean the boxes show the same channels, or that you get the same channels no matter which connection you use?
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Report this messageHi again, no, the fault stays with the same box.ie.,one of them is good, the other seems faulty in some way (since the final switchover and re tuning)). As I say, the signal strength bar when tuning the individual channels indicates no signal at all on some channels the "good" box can find.
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: I would suspect the best thing to do is to go and grab a Freeview+ box, with two internal tuners.
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Report this messageHi, yep, this would answer the problem. I just hoped it was an easy fix for the box I have.
Many thanks for your help once again,
Fred.
(map)Posted by Fred Whiting (
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Report this messageFred Whiting: Thanks.
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Report this messageBriantist,i can't help feeling there may lie a future problem,when the Sutton Coldfield mast goes fully digital,potentially interfering with M-Y-Parc digital reception.There are 3 broadcast channels shared by both transmitters,channels 42,45,49.Consequently picture break up,or cancelling out digital reception may occur.Surely it would be sensible to allocate,MYP with 3 'clean' channels as a measure of protection.Example,swap the com's channels,51,52,48,with the PSB's,therefore fully protecting the public service Broadcasting channels.I have been told also that off-sets wont clear this potential problem up!
MYP-BBCB=ch42@20kw
BBCA=ch45@20kw
D3/4=ch49@20kw
S C-SDN=ch42@200kw
AQa=ch45@2ookw
AQb=ch49@200kw
All Sutton Coldfield com muxes will be on full power by the end of 2011.
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Report this messageAerialman: There is no need for any protection of this sort, in the fully digital plan the outputs of the transmitters is carefully planned to allow use of the frequencies in this way.
Posted by
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Report this messageI hope your right,we'll see!
Posted by Aerialman

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Report this messageAerialman: There are plenty of implementations of COFDM now around the world, and plenty of other digital networks too. Hopefully I'll have some radiation patterns showing on the maps soon...
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Report this messageThat would be great!Keep up the sterling work,Briantist.
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Report this messageAerialman: I shall!
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