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Can I use my ex-contract sky digital satellite receiver to get Freeview channels?


Can I use my ex-contract sky digital satellite receiver to get

You can get the following Freeview channels on with an ex-contract digital satellite receiver (once it is connected). Items marked with a star require either a Freesat from Sky (fSfS) card, or a expired Sky subscription card to view.



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JordyB
Saturday 17 March 2012 11:51AM
Hi

I Have an old Sky + box aliong with my old sky viewing card, i've brought a free sky sat dish along with cable connectors etc...

if i setup this new sat at my caravan and connect it to my old box and card should i recieve free sat service? or is that something else that i will require?
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Elliott
Monday 19 March 2012 2:20PM
Briantist: Hi
First, thanks for all the excellent info on this site.
Have a Sky dish that's no longer being used - I managed to connect the Sky box and can get all the non-contract channels.
Just wanted confirmation that it was the same wiring to connect a freesat box?
Any help would be appreciated - lot of variables out there!
Thanks,
Elliott
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Elliott
Monday 19 March 2012 2:22PM
Also will it be able to receive HD - and is there a way of checking?
Sky box I checked with was only standard def.
Thanks again!
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M.Rowell.
Saturday 24 March 2012 12:42PM
How do I get Sky F1&2 numbers 41&42 unlocked on free view I have Sky HD for one set I pay for all programmes
Dave Lindsay
Saturday 24 March 2012 2:43PM
M.Rowell.: Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 are available via terrestrial services from BT Vision and TopupTV:

gonedigital.net link icon Gone Digital | Sky Sports on Freeview – how do you get it?
Briantist
Monday 9 April 2012 6:42PM
Brettpigeon: Probably should get your facts straight before posting. VIVA is a subscription channel on satellite, and there is no such thing as a "free cable" service.

I think you will find my list of channels is 100% correct, unlike yours.
Briantist
Monday 9 April 2012 6:44PM
Elliott: Yes, the wiring is the same for Freesat and Sky.
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Mike Smartt
Thursday 3 May 2012 10:18AM
Hi - I have an old analogue Sky dish and we used it to watch many German channels successfully, although reception wasn’t always perfect, until yesterday when the analogue signal was turned off on the Astra satellite. Now the channels all say "you'll need a digital receiver". Will I be able to just switch to a new digital receiver and continue using the dish? And, if so, do have any recommendations as to what the best receiver might be best?
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franklyn
Tuesday 15 May 2012 10:51PM
not getting sky news on my caravan comag 60 sattlite receiver iam getting the other bbc itv channels tried scanning them all in but cant get sky what might be the problem
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Neil Bell
Wednesday 16 May 2012 6:15PM
Mike Smartt You'll probably need a new "universal" LNB which can be used with both analogue & digital receivers as well as the digital receiver but they are not too expensive. I use an HD receiver but there are only about 3 free to air German HD programmes on 19.2 all with SD equivalents so an SD receiver will suffice. Try to get a non Freesat receiver if possible as it will probably be easier to set up. I'd just do a search on line.
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tellypathetic
Saturday 19 May 2012 12:33PM
Hello. I now receive fSfS and record/playback
without any card. I`m buying a flatscreen
soon, and want to continue fSfS and be able to
r/p fSfS HD., again without any card.
Do i just swap my sky+ box for a sky+HD box,
or is that too simple??.


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jb38
Saturday 19 May 2012 8:03PM
tellypathetic: Considering the fact that the recording / playback side of a Sky+ box cannot be used unless a subscription of a £10.00 per month access change is in force, Sky having disabled this facility shortly after cancellation of the contract, then I am rather intrigued by your request for info as to whether or not the situation would still be existing if you changed the box to an HD version.

Maybe you could clarify on this.
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tellypathetic
Saturday 19 May 2012 10:55PM
jb38:Intrigued??, you and me both. This sky+box
lay gathering dust in a vacated bedroom until
i extended the cables and, when it worked, i
assumed (Doh) fSfS was indeed free, as with
freeview. I have just spoken to the original
subscriber,and have been assured the subscription was cancelled after the minimum contract period, and he also was unaware of any £10.00 p.m.access fee.
It would appear there are two possible
reasons for the service to be live.
1.He is not aware of continuing payments.
2.Sky have somehow left this box with fSfS r/p active.This may be most unlikely. but not
impossible?. So the situation remains as
described in my initial post.Needless to
say,i would be hesitant to initiate changes
requiring interaction with sky.





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jb38
Sunday 20 May 2012 8:39AM
tellypathetic: Thanks for the clarification, and I am inclined to suspect that your No1 suggestion could well be the reason for your good fortune "if" the original subscriber hasn't bothered to check his/her bank statements recently and is purely relying on the fact that they cancelled the contract.

However that said, the baffling aspect about all this is that the access code to enable the recorder to operate is programmed onto the Sky card and likewise has always to be kept inserted or the recorder will not respond to any commands, this just in the same way as if viewing Pick TV (epg:152) and the card is removed when after a few seconds a message will come on stating "please enter your viewing card", and so if you do not have a card inserted then although I have never personally witnessed nor ever heard of this type of situation applying, and its highly unlikely that it would, but it makes one wonder if a glitch has occurred in the access code processing side of the box whereby the memory has locked giving permanent access, and so just in case this happened I would refrain from ever being tempted to use the software update reset facility as it would be tempting fate.

Anyway whatever the reason, I will agree that it would be most inadvisable to initiate any changes that would draw attention to the situation.

PS: Can you view Pick TV without the card?
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Paul
Sunday 20 May 2012 11:08AM
I recently had a new 90cm dish fitted to my place in Ontiyent, Valencia. I brought my Amstrad skybox with me to watch free view from the dish. However, it says no signal is being received. Is this a problem with the box do you know? Thanks.
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tellypathetic
Sunday 20 May 2012 5:08PM
jb38:Pick TV shows `no information available`.
`The mystery of the cardless service` remains but will not, i suspect survive the changes (HD r/p) i will require when i buy my new TV.
Incidentally, i wanted to stay using fSfS
because i like Aljazeera, (evenings only on
Freeview), and NHK world, now HD (not on Freeview).Perhaps i should consider Freesat?.
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jb38
Sunday 20 May 2012 7:43PM
tellypathetic: Well if you cannot receive Pick TV then that could suggest that its purely the access code circuitry that enables the recording side of the box to operate that has locked up, making that box somewhat unique as I know of no other instances of this having happened in the many years that I have been involved with Sky boxes.

Freesat would be a really good option, and especially so when you have a dish feed ready to be used, and of course unlike the situation when dealing with Freeview, good reception of Freesat is guaranteed.

By the way, Aljazerra on Freesat is on EPG 203 and with NHK world HD on EPG 209, as I view both of these myself as well as Russia today on EPG 206, matter of fact all of the news channels are on the EPG 200 ranges.
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jb38
Sunday 20 May 2012 8:07PM
Paul: It depends on whether or not that who ever has set up the dish has aligned it to 28.2 degrees, or maybe one of the other ranges of satellites such as 19.2
Les Nicol
Sunday 20 May 2012 9:45PM
Paul - I would have thought the 90cm dish is possibly to small for reception of UK TV in Valencia. When the dish was fitted did the installer give you any indication of it's suitabilty for reception at your locus?

The Amstrad receiver,may not be the best suited either for use in Spain. I would check if possible with an ex pat installer in your area.

The Humax "Freesat" HDR has one of the most sensitive tuners of the UK boxes,but again
it would be best to check out the most appropriate receiver through local knowledge in Valencia.
Les Nicol
Sunday 20 May 2012 10:08PM
Paul, The recommended dish size for Alicante and Torrevieja areas is 1.4 metre Prime Focus Dish and for an offset 1.5 to 1.8.

For Valenica, Murcia and Madrid the recommendation for an offset dish is 1.8 metre

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Jackey
Tuesday 29 May 2012 1:06PM
Hi does anybody know if i can use my sky box and card at my partners house if he no longer recieves sky, I.E when he cancels sky does his dish become obsolete or will I be able to use my box and card with his dish.

Can anyone help?
Les Nicol
Tuesday 29 May 2012 4:14PM
Jackey - Yes straight connection to his dish but you need to advise/discuss with SKY.
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Jackey
Wednesday 30 May 2012 11:38AM
Jackey: Thank you
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Phil
Thursday 31 May 2012 9:17PM
Hi all.

Trying to tune in my old SD Thompson skybox to RTL for the F1 next week. Found all the channels on 19.2E on F 12187H 27.5 3/4 and added RTL from the search list with the yellow button. However. Can't view. Keep getting the No satellite signal being received or insert sky viewing card messages, yet I tuned in reasonably easily. What do i need to do to view?? I'm well stuck. Thanks for advice in advance.

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Phil
Thursday 31 May 2012 9:45PM
can't believe it - think i found answer by accident -

inserted sky card from normal sky box.
entered pin
changed pin controls

now can view via option 7

wow!!!!!

easy when you spend 2 hours trying everything!!!!
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Daniel
Saturday 9 June 2012 5:39PM
Hi i had a skybox in my old house i have taken the box o my new house where there is a sky dish i had connected the box to the dish along with my old card an i am unable to get any channels i was hoping to be able to watch the free to air channels. If i am correct what am i doin wrong?

Thanks
Dan
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jb38
Saturday 9 June 2012 7:38PM
Daniel: Press "Services - 4 - 6" on your boxes remote control and have a look at the signal strength / quality indication bars, as if nothing is showing then that can indicate that there is either a fault in the coax leading to the dish, one of the "F" connectors at either end and in particular the dish end if water has crept into the connector, the dish having been moved a fraction out of alignment or finally the LNB on the end of the dish arm is defective.

These are all the possible reasons for your problem if you know for certain that the box was working OK, and by the way the card is not necessary for Sky's free to view channels except for Pick TV.
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Stephen Newmarch
Monday 16 July 2012 3:06PM
I wish to end my sky subscription.
I am currently using a HD+ box.
I understand I will lose some channels and the HD facility, will I still be able to record programmes from the remaining channels and play them back.

Steve
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jb38
Monday 16 July 2012 5:19PM
Stephen Newmarch: No! as when a contract is cancelled the recording side of any Sky+ box will be disabled at the same time as your access to view Sky dedicated programmes effectively turning the box into a normal Sky box.

That said, I have seen it reported that if you remove your card before cancellation and are content to view normal "free to view" channels then you "might" manage to hold on to the recording facility, that is so long as you never at any time are tempted to try the card, as access is cancelled via an "over air" command from sky straight into the card, this being the key to the system.

Try a test by removing the card and placing the box in standby, then take it out of standby and check if you can play back something you have recorded, "if" you can then that's the procedure to use.































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E36
Tuesday 17 July 2012 7:37PM
I am going to Spain shortly and i will be taking my bush free view digital reciever with me, question will it work in Spain when i connect it up to the digital dish???
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David Jordan
Wednesday 25 July 2012 8:47AM
Great site with some very interesting info.
I am looking to cancel my SKY + subscription and go the route of FreeviewSat. My question is, will I still be able to use the "mouse" attached to our kitchen TV for receiving channels post SKY?
Many thanks
Briantist
Wednesday 25 July 2012 1:28PM
David Jordan: If you just stop subscribing, and use the Sky+ box as a standard non-recording box then your "Magic Eye" will continue to work.

If you change to Freesat+ or Freeview+HD, you will not have an RF output - these have being discontinued by Sky for some years now.

However, you can always install a cheap second Freesat box using a spare output from your satellite dish.

More at www.ukfree.tv link icon Upgrading from Sky+HD to Freesat+HD | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice .
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mark
Wednesday 1 August 2012 3:31PM
hi i have a satellite box connected to my old sky dish will i still be able to watch hd channels or does there have to be some sort of upgrade to the dish to accept hd channels
Les Nicol
Wednesday 1 August 2012 5:30PM
mark: No upgrade to the dish is required. You don't say what type of satellite receiver you have though? If it is a an HD capable receiver,then you will receive transmissions, but this assumes you have an HD capable TV. Alternatives to SKY are the BBC ITV supported "Freesat"HD boxes and FTA Free to air generic HD satellite recievers e.g. "Tdechnomate" HD or similar.

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stephen
Sunday 16 September 2012 7:51AM
my brother has sky t.v, if he subscribes to multi room, could i use the extra box in my house and use it with my sattelite dish i already have up.
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jb38
Sunday 16 September 2012 10:48AM
stephen: Purely on the technical sense yes! although I would not advise attempting this until after about 3 weeks or so has lapsed after your brother has taken out a multiroom subscription, as what you are suggesting is a violation of your brothers contract with Sky and should this be found out may have repercussions in the financial sense for your brother.
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Dennis McDowell
Thursday 20 September 2012 9:03PM
I am using a Ross Satellite HD Digital Receiver at the moment,what will I have to do when the switch over comes on the24th October in Northern Ireland.
Awaiting your reply.
Many thanks. Dennis
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jj
Tuesday 2 October 2012 9:36PM
hi
is it possible to take the skybox & card from my multiroom with me in a caravan & recieve all channels?ie movies etc. i subscribe to all chanells except the sports, the multiroom box is not connected to a phone line at home so will it know sky is not at home but in a caravan
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jb38
Tuesday 2 October 2012 11:19PM
jj: There is nothing to stop you doing what you suggest as the box will receive signals exactly as when located in your bedroom.

Also as the multiroom box is not connected to a phone line then that's a plus point, although even if it was its quite permissible for a box to be unpowered for a week or so if a person is on holiday etc, as people generally turn off power to everything except their freezer.

By the way Sky would not know where any box is being used if its not connected to a phone line, as the phone line is the only form of communication between the box and Sky.

All that said on the assumption that you have a suitable dish installed at the caravan.
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jb38
Tuesday 2 October 2012 11:23PM
poppy: If you are meaning to use the coax lead that would normally be used into the Sky boxes LNB input then no! as Freeview is purely a terrestrial based system via a normal aerial.

If though you are not meaning that then please clarify.
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jj
Wednesday 3 October 2012 7:34PM Duns
jb38
many thanks for the info, i thought that would be the case but had`nt tried it. ive bought a dish for the caravan + satellite finder so hopefully it will all work (i will test it out at home before i go away though(
jj
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Mrs Lewer
Monday 12 November 2012 1:21PM
Hi we currently have multi room from sky we are thinking about getting rid of it the tv we have has got freeview fitted in it but the cable from the airiel on the roof has been disconnected do we have to reconnect it or can we cancel the sky but still get freeview through the sky box if so how is this done .
would appreciate any help don't want to cancel sky incase we are left with no channels.
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Paul Merritt
Monday 12 November 2012 7:07PM Marlow
Hi,
I'm thinking of cancelling Sky. If I did would I still be able to receive Horse & Country channel(free) and would I still have the live pause/record feature? I have a modern Samsung TV. If not then could you please advise what would you suggest?
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Syd Lyon
Thursday 6 December 2012 12:42PM
Are there any boxes or devices around that you can connect to your computer in order to receive net TV. Especially European Sports Channels?
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vanessa coombes
Wednesday 9 January 2013 6:46PM
Hi i have a humax freeview plus box connected to my aerial in the attic. I used to have sky and still have the satellite dish on my wall.
Could I connect my freevew plus box to my unused satellite dish.
Dave Lindsay
Wednesday 9 January 2013 7:07PM
vanessa coombes: No.

The Freeview system requires an aerial (which points to a transmitter on the ground) whereas the satellite dish points to an orbitting satellite.

Why can you not use the aerial?
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vanessa coombes
Friday 11 January 2013 1:23PM
The reception with my aerial isnt always good especially in bad weather screen freezes or cannot get a signal at all...
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milan
Friday 11 January 2013 2:42PM London
Hi
Ignorant question. At present we are watching Freeview (non - HD) via a Sagem STB/recorder. We are upgrading our CRT to a flat panel with Freeview HD built in. How can we watch HD broadcasts while, at the same time, using the recorder to record channels we are not watching, so we can watch later on the TV? Is an aerial cable splitter the only way, and is that likely to impact the quality of each signal?

Thanks
Dave Lindsay
Friday 11 January 2013 3:08PM
milan: You appear to be making an assumption or think that it is likely that one will interfere with the other which is unlikely.

Feed the aerial lead into the recorder and out to the TV like in the days of analogue reception with a VCR and TV.
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milan
Friday 11 January 2013 3:17PM London
Many thanks for your quick response.

Will I still get an HD signal on the TV if it's routed via a non-HD box? I also have to check what connections the box has (for output) I suppose.....

Dave Lindsay
Friday 11 January 2013 3:26PM
milan: It shouldn't be expected to make any difference. It certainly won't stop it passing through because it isn't HD.

If the box has HDMI out, then you should use that because it keeps the signal digital from the box to the TV. Obviously it won't provide a HD picture, but it will be a better choice than using scart.



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