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Channel 4-seven is now in the Freeview EPG in switched-over areas

The placeholder for Channel 4's new catch-up channel, 4-seven is now on the ArqB/COM6 multiplex showing up as channel 47. It does not appear in areas where switchover happens later in the year.

The placeholder for Channel 4's new catch-up channel, 4-seven i
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If you do a rescan for channels on your Freeview set-top box or television, you may now find a new channel at position 47 called "Channel 4-seven".

However, this will be only the case if you use on of the main Freeview transmitters that have already gone though digital switchover. So, those in London will not see the channel appear until the 18th April.

This new channel from the Channel 4 Corporation (a not-for-profit public broadcaster) will be something new - for a repeats channel.

Rather than showing the whole of a channel an hour later (as Channel 4+1 does), this new channel will schedule only the top shows from Channel 4 in their original timeslots for the week following their original broadcast on the main channel.

The channel will also appear on Freesat (probably at 127) and other platforms.







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michael
Thursday 5 April 2012 9:28AM
Not yet on Caradon or Huntshaw Cross - unless using parameters my box doesn't recognise. I'll keep monitoring!
Briantist
Thursday 5 April 2012 10:22AM
michael: It should be. Not also that channel 32, "Big Deal", is also on COM6 and not on Mux D.
Briantist
Thursday 5 April 2012 11:39AM
michael: The channel is showing up on Whitehawk Hill (as per the photo) and DMOL are listing it too.
michael
Thursday 5 April 2012 3:16PM
The Humax detects the 4seven logo from Huntshaw and Caradon - it was just the old box that doesn't recognise it. Presumably it will when programming is broadcast.
Briantist
Thursday 5 April 2012 4:38PM
michael: The logo is a MHEG-5 overlay, so you won't see it on a box that doesn't support it (or perhaps not unless you wait a very long time on some older boxes).
Mike Dimmick
Thursday 5 April 2012 4:46PM
michael: "old box" - is this a Topfield? On their boxes, and some others, it was possible to disable the MHEG interpreter, which some people do to stop the BBC red button overlay graphic popping up. Of course the red button text doesn't work either!

The 4seven logo behaviour should be consistent with any other channel that is currently off-air. For example, BBC Three, BBC Four, CBeebies and CBBC have an MHEG program that generates a message listing the channel numbers for other BBC services, when the time-shared capacity is being used by the other channel.
michael
Friday 6 April 2012 9:33AM
The box is an old SilverCrest SL35T. It shows
whichever programme is broadcasting on BBC3 and BBC4, CBeebies and CBBC. No red button etc.
Despite its age, I like it as it allows each
multiplex from my seven (sic!) transmitters to be saved in a separate group. The Humax is a 9150T and behaves as it should. Let's hope we get a useful selection on 4seven!
Mark Agius
Friday 6 April 2012 9:39AM Haywards Heath
Dose anybody know if Channel 4-seven will be on satellite, as a lot of people can't get AqrB.
Alan Hewitt
Friday 6 April 2012 1:48PM
Mark Agius: It would appear yes see BBC News - Channel 4 announces 4seven catch-up channel
borednow
Friday 6 April 2012 3:19PM
for gods sake.
less so called "channels" and more programs
Im sick of being force fed the same tired old *carp* on 27 different frequencies and being told the 10 year old "game show/competition/quiz" is "new"

the entire TV industry is a scam
woodface
Friday 6 April 2012 9:02PM
HIDEOUS logo!
Dave
Friday 6 April 2012 11:51PM Brighton
Another pointless channel
MCMLXII
Saturday 7 April 2012 7:14PM
I can now watch the 7o'clock news at 7pm on Channel 4
The 7o'clock news at 8pm on Channel 4+1 and last week news a week later on Channel 4-seven.
MCMLXII
Saturday 7 April 2012 7:15PM
PS. I can also watch it in SD and HD at the same time on two TV's.
Mark Agius
Saturday 7 April 2012 8:19PM Haywards Heath
MCMLXII
You can double that number if you have a plus 1 box.
You can also watch it on-line and many programs are also on DVD.
Briantist
Monday 9 April 2012 8:02PM
woodface: Seems an obvious choice for something on channel 47 to me...
Conor
Wednesday 11 April 2012 12:40PM
I think they should put film4hd on freesat and freview first then there 4 7 channel
Mike Dimmick
Wednesday 11 April 2012 2:40PM
michael: According to forums.digitalspy.co.uk link icon Silvercrest SL35T - No teletext - Freeview - Digital Spy Forums that box doesn't support MHEG-5, so no interactive content at all.
Des Collier
Wednesday 11 April 2012 9:25PM Brigg
Now appeared on belmont as from today,on 47.
george
Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:12AM Merthyr Tydfil
a lot of talk about channel 4seven coming to swichted over areas i live in cf481dx area went digital in 2010 still no sign of it why so
Des Collier
Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:13AM Brigg
also noticed,QVC BEAUTY moved to 35,2 more channels appeared on epg,tv stars on 62 & tv news on 90.
Dave Lindsay
Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:21AM
george: 4seven is broadcast on one of the Commercial multiplexes which don't wish to invest in transmitting from Merthyr and around 1,100 other similar small transmitters. For an explanation, see here:

www.ukfree.tv link icon Will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

Your best bet for additional channels will probably be Freesat, and according to the posting above, 4seven will be on there.
Joe Friday
Tuesday 15 May 2012 11:56PM
I want to pick up Buffalo, New York television. Can you help me?

Thanks for your assistance
Briantist
Friday 18 May 2012 9:29AM
Joe Friday: You can't watch US television channels in Europe, it's just too far away to get signals from the satellites.
Corin
Saturday 16 June 2012 1:24AM

In fact you can pick up three US TV stations in Europe from satellite -- BYU TV from Salt Lake City, UT, MSNBC, both on Telstar 12 at 15.0° West Europe and South Africa beams, and The Pentagon Channel on Eutelst 9A at 9.0° East.

Telstar 12 also carries NBC feeds on the Europe and South African beams, one of which is frequently the NBC Today Show (the original breakfast tv show) from NBC
s Manhattan headquarters.

CNN [USA] also used to be available on Telstar 12 for a number of years but was discontinued about 2 years ago.

Incidentally it is incorrect and extremely misleading to say that "it's just too far away to get signals from the satellites."

The distance from Brighton, East Sussex to Buffalo, NY is approximately 5 800 km, but the distance from Brighton, East Sussex to Astra 2 satellite cluster is of the order of 36 000 km, which as you can see is over six times the distance.

The reason that US TV stations cannot generally be received in Europe by satellite is because the satellites which transmit them are too low in the sky, below the horizon, and even if they were visible, their beams are directed at the Americas and not Europe. Also the majority of Ku band tranmsissions are encrypted and only available with a receiver and paid up subscription.

And for those that are prepared to pay money to Rupert Murdoch, there is always PBS UK on the $ky EPG.
DREW
Sunday 8 July 2012 4:34PM
If it's not available in area that haven't switched over,Why was it advertised in theses areas??
KMJ,Derby
Sunday 8 July 2012 6:52PM
DREW: The service is available on satellite and cable in all regions, and even on Freeview, some viewers are able to receive signals from areas that have switched over, despite living officially in the Tyne-Tees or Ulster TV regions.
molly
Thursday 12 July 2012 6:36PM
we did the switch over ages ago but still dont get 47. says no signal. any ideas?
Dave Lindsay
Thursday 12 July 2012 7:40PM
molly: 4seven is available after switchover in areas that receive all Freeview channels.

If you are receiving from a transmitter that only carries the Public Service multiplexes, then you won't be able to receive 4seven on Freeview.
lindsey
Tuesday 24 July 2012 12:21AM Hove
i re tuned my freeview tv (freeview built in)a week ago to receive the new channel 4seven(channel 4 over 7 days). Since doing so my BBC channels keep breaking up and the signal for my BBC channels are now on only a quarter strength and sometimes half strength (ch50) My BBC channels never used to brake up & always used to be full strength! I am tuned to whitehawk hill which is the correct transmitter for where i live. All my channels have always received full strength until re tuning to receive channel 4seven & now most of the time I cant watch any BBC channel without it breaking up. Please can someone advise me on how to sort this out as I have now re tuned my tv several times & it has made no difference? thank you.
Dave Lindsay
Tuesday 24 July 2012 9:42AM
lindsey: In your general area the signals from Rowridge come in quite strong. Bring up the signal strength screen whilst on BBC One and see if it is tuned to C24 for Rowridge or C60 for Whitehawk. There is perhaps an outside chance that it could be on C50 which is Newhaven and is a little off-beam from Whitehawk from your location.

If it is tuned to Rowridge, then the solution is simple; all of Rowridge's channels are low frequency and Whitehawk's are high, so have the aerial lead unplugged for the first 30% of the scan (or until it gets past C35 if it gives channel numbers as it scans them). There is a big gap between the two, so there is a big margin.

If it is tuned to Newhaven, then that will be more tricky. If the receiver has manual tuning, then I would keep the aerial out for a bit longer to miss out Newhaven, knowing that some of Whitehawk's will need manually adding. In this case, keep the aerial out to 61%. Then manually tune Whitehawk's C48 which carries Yesterday, 4seven and others. HD services are on C51 and ITV1, C4 etc are on C53.
Maurice Hayward
Saturday 25 August 2012 12:30PM
I CAN RECORD ALL FREEVIEW CHANNELS ON MY SONY HDD (My Tv is a Panasonic and compatible with my Sony Recorder)...However Although my TV and Recorder have been retuned to receive Channel 47 and I get a good picture on my TV...Channel 47 will not record on my HDD Recorder.
Can you help please ???
Maurice Hayward
Saturday 25 August 2012 2:39PM Sutton Coldfield
Maurice Hayward:Checked this and EPG SHOWS 47 AS BLANK.
UPDATED RECORDER AND TV AGAIN BUT PROBLEM STILL EXISTS.
jb38
Saturday 25 August 2012 3:55PM
Maurice Hayward: Can you receive Yesterday (12) or ITV4 (24) on your Sony DVD recorder as these are on the same mux transmitter channel as EPG 47.

If though the EPG's mentioned are not working either then you should make sure that your Sony is not suffering from receiving an excessively high level of signal as you are located at under 2 miles away from the station, Sony tuners not being quite so capable of coping with this type of situation in the same way as Panasonic's can.
Maurice Hayward
Saturday 25 August 2012 7:22PM Sutton Coldfield
Thanks for getting back to me...Both these EPGs are working perfectly ON THE RECORDER as are all of the other channels.....ALL EXCEPT CHANNEL 47.
I Receive an excellent picture on my tv on all channels including channel 47..but cant record channel 47.
I have 3 other old tvs using a digi box...all receive channel 47...and one of them has a digibox with built in recorder which DOES record the channel.....But why is it that only channel 47 wont appear on the tv guide on my panasonic tv and Sony recorder ????
jb38
Saturday 25 August 2012 7:56PM
Maurice Hayward: Could you please clarify on a point that I am a bit confused about.

You have stated - >> I Receive an excellent picture on my tv on all channels including channel 47..but cant record channel 47 << - then on the latter part of your posting - >> But why is it that only channel 47 wont appear on the tv guide on my panasonic tv and Sony recorder ?? <<

Are you simply referring to the fact of when you are viewing the Sony's output on your Panasonic TV?

However, if that is what you are meaning then it strongly suggests that your Sony's tuner is defective as far as it responding to that EPG channel, something not exactly unheard of although it could be any EPG channel involved, Philips DVD Freeview recorders of a few years old having suffered from the same problem, although in their case it was EPG 1(BBC) and caused by a tuner defect, the problem vanishing when the offending item was replaced.

Maurice Hayward
Saturday 25 August 2012 10:19PM Sutton Coldfield
Thanks again for responding to my problem.

To Clarify ....Channel 47 picture and epg is fine on Panasonic TV.
however I cant get a picture for Channel 47 on the sony recorder....and although the epg shows channel 47 on the list of channels...no programmes are shown.
As stated all other channels on recorder are fine...it is only channel 47 that has no picture or epg programmes showing.
jb38
Sunday 26 August 2012 10:12AM
Maurice Hayward: Thanks for the clarification on that issue, however it still suggests to me that the Sony's tuner is defective as although 47 might well be indicated that's only as far as the mux transmitters EPG list of the programme channel numbers contained on it is concerned, and not that the tuner has picked up the programme data associated with the number, which of course it hasn't!

Knowledge of the Sony model involved would have been of assistance, and although I appreciate that you have previously mentioned that you updated both devices that can be open to interpretation, and so have you tried carrying out a complete "as out of the box factory reset" on the device before having auto-tuned? as sometimes that can help rectify any glitches that may have occurred during the initial set up procedures.
Maurice Hayward
Sunday 26 August 2012 10:42AM Sutton Coldfield
Thanks again.....I will try a factory re set and if that doesnt do it I will have to accept that the tuner may be defective.

Once again I am grateful for your advice.

Maurice Hayward
Maurice Hayward
Sunday 26 August 2012 7:49PM Sutton Coldfield
Hello again......The bottom line is that EVERYTHING IS WORKING.
Perhaps I should use my age as an excuse (I am 70 years old).....but I tried everything to try and tune channel 47 into the Recorder...then as a last resort I went back again to the EASY SETUP OPTION....AND BINGO....this time it worked.
I felt that I had to let you know...as you have tried to help....Kind Regards Maurice Hayward
jb38
Sunday 26 August 2012 8:49PM
Maurice Hayward: Thanks for taking the time to give an update regarding your Sony's problem, and I am pleased to hear that the situation has at last been rectified as there wasn't really any other options left.

Cheers / jb.
Alfred
Tuesday 11 September 2012 1:36PM
I watch the TPC on satellite at 9 degrees East and pick up the notes on your new channel is it beamed to South Africa
Mandy Lockley
Tuesday 7 May 2013 10:02PM
How can I stop 47 automatically recording programmes which I have previously recorded on channel 4. The 47 recording then takes precedence over other programmes I have set to record meaning I often lose them. This is very frustrating.
jb38
Tuesday 7 May 2013 11:22PM
Mandy Lockley: What exactly is meant by 47? and what type or recording device do you have?
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