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BBC HD to switch to DVB-S2 on 6th June 2011

The BBC will switch to the higher-capacity modern modulation scheme for the BBC HD and BBC One HD channels on satellite.

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The high definition (HD) television channels on satellite require a lot more bandwidth (number of bits per second) than the standard definition (SD) ones, as you might expect.

However the additional capacity required is reduced in two ways. First the MPEG-4 compression system is used (rather than MPEG-2) and generally the DVB-S2 modulation system increases the bandwidth of each satellite transponder.

Generally speaking, around nine SD television channels can be carried on a transponder in DVB-S mode, and four HD channels on one in DVB-S2 mode.

For historical reasons, the BBC's Astra 2D transponder 50 has been providing BBC One HD and BBC HD (and also ITV1 HD Merdian South) in the DVB-S mode, and this has used all the capacity on the transponder, because of the lower bitrate.

The changes

One 6th June 2011, the BBC will switch the transponder to DVB-S2. If you watch using Sky+HD, Virgin Media or Freeview HD you will not have to do anything.

If you use a branded Freesat box (or TV set), you may need to put it into stand-by mode for 30 seconds on 6th June. If that doesn't work, perform a 'first time installation'.

Update: Some Panasonic Freesat boxes are unable to deal with the change - see comments below

If you are using a unbranded Freesat box, you may find that you also have to do a 'first time installation' to get the channels back.

Some older satellite equipment will not support DVB-S2. If you can't watch Channel 4 HD, then you will no longer be able to watch the BBC HD channels.

Sky HD, Freesat HD EPG issues

Currently BBC One HD cannot automatically replace BBC One in the Sky EPG at position 101, because there are 15 regional versions of BBC One, and only a single BBC One HD 'stream' on the satellite.

BBC Two carries four regions for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. For a BBC TWO HD to appear in the Sky EPG at position 102, the BBC would need to provide four versions of BBC TWO HD.

All the other BBC channels are national, and have no regional components. BBC Three timeshares with CBBC, BBC FOUR timeshares with CBeebies, plus there is BBC News, BBC Parliament and BBC Alba.

The extra capacity found by moving to DVB-S2 could allow the BBC to provide BBC Three, BBC Four, CBeebies and CBBC channel in HD, and these could be provided in the "usual" EPG slots for Sky HD and Freesat HD users, which would put them on the lower numbered channels nearer the top of the guide.





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Alan
Tuesday 6 September 2011 12:58PM
Sorry, that should be 6 years British.
Briantist
Tuesday 6 September 2011 1:59PM
Alan: I'd just pay £20 for a new Freeview box and save yourself the grief - such as www.powerdirect.co.uk link icon DION VSTBAW09 - Freeview Digital TV Receiver Remote 1xScart WHITE | Power Direct Online Electrical Superstore .

You are only technically protected by the law when you make a purchase, the laws does not apply when you were provided something for free.
David
Tuesday 6 September 2011 2:30PM
Are prices of HD boxes resonable yet, any of the £20/35 ones still around that were being sold off.
Briantist
Wednesday 7 September 2011 7:18AM
David: There is one at Argos (for example) for £66 - Buy Sagemcom DSI86 Freesat HD Digital Box - Black at Argos.co.uk - Your Online Shop for Digital boxes and services.
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David
Wednesday 7 September 2011 9:32AM
Thanks Brian.
Do we kmow if it will work the BBCiplayer and The itvIplayer and all known changes that are upcoming to the transmission specs. been caught out twice now want to avoid the third.
Alan
Wednesday 7 September 2011 12:15PM
Briantist. It wasn't a Freeview box, It was the FreeSat HDPlus setup costing me £275. But it will not record the BBC HD channels. £275 is too much for me to pay for a HD recorder that will not record the BBC HD channels.
Mike Dimmick
Wednesday 7 September 2011 2:31PM
Alan: Time to try the small claims court, I think. They're still a supplier acting in sales to the public.
Alan
Wednesday 7 September 2011 2:41PM
Mike, I think your right. Alan.
Briantist
Wednesday 7 September 2011 3:28PM
Alan: I'm sorry, I misunderstood, if that is the case contact Consumer Direct - Consumer Direct contacts : Directgov - Directories - they offer a free service, which saves having to go to court.
SteveD
Tuesday 30 October 2012 1:39AM Alton
I have a Panasonic TV which was sold as being HD ready, but I don't think I'm receiving any HD broadcasts. My area (GU34) has apparently already switched to Digital. I have not changed my external rooftop antenna - is this the problem?
SteveD
Tuesday 30 October 2012 2:01AM Alton
Also, I don't see channels 101, 102 etc. 101 returns "Invalid Channel" and then the next channel is 170.
jb38
Tuesday 30 October 2012 7:16AM
SteveD: Have a look in your TV's user manual / specifications and check under tuner if DVB-T2 is seen listed, because if its only DVB-T then its not capable of picking up an HD signal, or alternatively this aspect can be checked out if you provide the model number of the set.

However if you have seen the TV listed as "HD Ready" then this only means that its capable of producing HD images and "not" that it can actually receive them via an aerial, the HD images being from an external device, e.g: HD set top box coupled into the TV via the HDMI input.

The "HD Ready" definition being something I disagreed with right from the start as it was just bound to cause confusion amongst potential purchasers of these devices, and indeed already has done to many!
SteveD
Wednesday 31 October 2012 7:37PM Alton
I have a Panasonic TX-P42G10B F/SAT PLASMA H. The specifications only mention DVB-S/S2 and DVB-T. Looks like I've been conned, right? Maybe I should have a go at Panasonic and/or John Lewis?
jb38
Wednesday 31 October 2012 9:38PM
SteveD: Well, the TV is capable of receiving HD transmissions but only via Freesat, and as you mention reception via Freeview is only in standard definition. Of course there are one or two other brands (Samsung or LG) with similar odd ball combinations like that.
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