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Upgrading from Sky+HD to Freesat+HD

What to do if you want to stop subscribing to Sky+HD but do wish to record/pause/play free HD television.

What to do if you want to stop subscribing to Sky+HD but do wis
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You might get a glossy magazine every month, but what do Sky really think of your custom?

"Give me a f**king name on a direct debit and it's mine for life,"
- www.ft.com link icon Sam Chisholm, former boss of BSkyB.


Perhaps you responded to an offer like the one blow that promised a gratis Sky+HD box (for new customers taking their first Sky+HD package) with free standard set-up



But you were so excited with the thought of a £50 M&S voucher that you didn't think to follow each of the little daggers and little stars to quite read all the terms and conditions:

www.sky.com link icon 

So, your twelve months of commitment are over and, for reasons of budget (or politics) you have decided you want to keep all the features of Sky+ - live pause, high definition, extended electronic programme guide, series record, and recording two programmes at once whilst you watch another - but don't want to fork out every month on top of your TV Licence - and you still get www.ukfree.tv link icon hundreds of free TV channels

Here's what you can do.

First you need to buy a Freesat+HD box. There are many on the market, and can be bought from Argos, www.currys.co.uk link icon Currys DIGITAL, www.johnlewis.com link icon John Lewis, Comet and online at Amazon, as well as other stores.

When you use a Freesat+HD box NO SUBSCRIPTION HAS TO BE PAID. NONE. NOT A PENNY TO ANYONE.

Installing

This will take no more than ten minutes. First you will need to disconnect the Sky+HD box mains from the wall socket.

Then you will need to disconnect the cables from the back of the Sky+HD box.

Pull out the mains power connection (1), carefully unscrew the satellite dish links (2) and (3), and then take out the HDMI lead (4) to your HDTV. If you have an "surround sound" amplifier, you may also have a digital audio connection (5).

Remove the Sky+HD box and put the Freesat+HD box back in the same position.



Then reconnect the cables: the mains power cable (1) - but not to the wall just yet, screw the two satellite dish links (2) and (3) and connect the HDMI cable (4) to your HDTV. If you had one, reconnect the digital audio connection (5).

If you have an Ethernet router, you can connect it to the Freesat+HD box at this point (5).

With everything in place, turn on the mains power and power up the Freesat+HD box.

The TV screen first displays the box's logo



The first set-up screen allows you to select the TV type, widescreen mode and resolution:



Next the box checks for the satellite signal:



Then there is a check for updated software:



Then you enter your postcode and the box checks it:



The next step is a scan for channels. This takes about 30 seconds:



And that's it. You can now view channels, like 108 for BBC HD:



Or press the GUIDE button for the EPG:



And that's it.





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Anne
Thursday 17 January 2013 3:42PM
Thank you again. TV people have installed the new freesat+ recorder and also left the sky box in place so that I can push the signal (only) to the other rooms. Othersets have freeview on one set and indep sat box on kitchen tv. will have to get new tv for kitchen eventually. thank you again.
jb38
Thursday 17 January 2013 7:49PM
Anne: Thanks for the update and I'm pleased to hear that your new Humax box has been installed OK, albeit though with the standard method of installation having been used whereby it can only be viewed in your main room, but as far as my query on the LNB type used on your dish is concerned, if the Sky box is also operational in exactly the same way as before then that answers the question, as it must have!

However, should you decide in the future that you would like to have the choice of either Sky, Freesat or Freeview in all your rooms fed via the single coax from the Spider box in the loft then the method I suggested is the only way that this can be easily achieved with the minimum of expense, and as aforementioned, if the magic eye facility is also to be retained then this is the only aspect of set up that adds a complication to an otherwise easy task, as this requires certain measures to be taken so as NOT to kill off the 9 volts DC voltage from the Sky boxes RF2 output, as this is the power source for the magic eyes internal circuitry.
Anne
Friday 18 January 2013 3:22PM
Anne: I cant tell you how confused i am with all this and basically disappointed with the connections made by Hughes TV. In the main living room the Humax sits alongside the sky box and the sky box is on standby (off red light) and is, I am informed, no longer operational. In the Kitchen, I have a small sat freeview receiver, for that tv but that only works if the Humax box is on and sending out signal although Humax freesat not avail on that tv. In Bedroom, same situation, set has freeview built in, but if the freesat humax box not on, there is no signal. Othere tv in other bedroom there is no signal whatsoever whereas we did get sky. Is this a 'mess up' by Hughes not knowing what they are doing. I am 66 and my husband 72 and we havnt a clue. I have two days to complain to Hughes and reject the set if I wish. Is there a tv/aerial expert in the Hopton on sea area please. Anne
Anne
Tuesday 29 January 2013 1:45PM
Thank you again for all your help we now have all this sorted following a third visit from TV people. The sky dish has two cable connections, which now go to the Humax 1000s box. We have left the sky box in position so that acts as a modulator only to send a signal to all the other rooms. Bedroom set has freeview works fine, kitchen set has freeview receiver alongside, other bedroom sets have nothing so tv's are redundant without a receiver, but the signal is there just need to get new sets! Have been told its possible to have additional feed from the sky dish by replacing the central bit, and still watch Sky on all sets (but not with Sky plus as only one extra cable feed) but feel the prohibitive cost of another £100 is probably not worth it as can buy a new small set for that. I hope Humax will eventually develop a box like the sky+ unit with Humax+ so that it feeds other sets in the same way, now that would really set the cat amongst the pidgeons. Thank you again. Anne
Bill
Wednesday 27 February 2013 4:46PM
I have a Sky+ box, (not HD) and I am about to cancel the contract/subscription.
Will I only be able to still get BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 ? or will I get other available freesat channels ? and will I be able to record any of them with my Sky+ box once I've stopped subscribing? Thanx.
jb38
Wednesday 27 February 2013 4:56PM
Bill: If you remove the card that will reveal all the channels that you will be able to view once you cancel the contract, which I may say might not be that much less than you presently do unless your viewing habits are centred exclusively around package channels.

However the recording and playback side of your box will become inoperable when you cancel the contract unless you are will to pay a monthly subscription of around £10.00 to Sky, as Sky retains control (on a permanent basis) to the access codes necessary to enable the recording / playback side of box to operate.
Bill
Wednesday 27 February 2013 5:09PM
Thanx very much for that info jb38.
Ah well, looks like I'll have to buy a Humax Freesat box then. I like the option of pausing and re-winding live TV, recording two programmes at a time whilst watching a pre-recorded one, series link and an EPG. Any suggestions?
jb38
Wednesday 27 February 2013 5:54PM
Bill: Best policy! although speaking from the engineering point of view I would always recommend paying that bit extra for a Humax box whether it be for Freeview or Freesat (latter in your case) as although a fault can develop in any electronic device Humax's are by far the best for reliability.

Undermentioned is a link to the manufacturers site illustrating some particularly good buys at reduced prices under the heading of "Grade A", the Foxsat HDR seen at the top being the one I have been using myself for just over two years and with a virtually faultless performance, the only minor problem being with the remote control locking up every few months, this instantly rectified by taking one end of the battery out and pressing any button to discharge the circuitry.

By the way, the items seen on the link are frequently updated and so its best to search about within the various sections listed on the left hand side.

www.humaxdirect.co.uk link icon Humax FOXSATHDR-G Freesat twin tuner 320GB PVR (Grade A) - HUMAX UK Direct Sales Website
Clare
Friday 8 March 2013 9:01PM
Hi can you do this if you have free view built into television?
Steve P
Saturday 9 March 2013 7:48PM
Clare - Yes.

You have to think of receiving TV as requiring two different things

1) A TUNER that will receive terrestial or satellite trnasmissions and then select the one you want to watch. Or these days, will receive a TV signal from the interwebby thingy.

2) A MONITOR to display a TV picture. That can come from a Tuner, or a recording - VCR/DVD/Blueray/PVR. Or a Camera

What we call a TV classically combined an analogue tuner with a monitor. More modern TVs almaost all have a Digital Terrestial "Freeview" tuner built in.

So with your TV remote you can choose to watch yout TV's tuner on your TVs monitor.

OR you can watch something input througa na AV(SCART) input, or a modern HDMI. For example a Freesat Tuner Box. Or a Freeview HD box.
Steve P
Saturday 9 March 2013 7:49PM
Talking SKY HD boxes, are there no "fixes" to make them record without a subscription?
Geoff Carter
Wednesday 13 March 2013 8:53AM
Hi could you advise me.I have just replaced Sky + with a Humax free sat + HDR machine all works well,but my question is I had various tv,s around the house that could receive the signal via RF1 cable RF2cable and Arial IN cable How do I connect to the Humax box to send the signal around the other sets and what gadgets do I need to buy.
Thanks for any help Geoff
jb38
Wednesday 13 March 2013 12:47PM
Geoff Carter: The only way of achieving this facility using Freesat devices is by purchasing a separate RF modulator such as seen in the link provided below, this being connected into the scart socket on the rear of your box.

As the modulator does not provide an RF loop through facility then you will have to use a "Y" piece combiner with the common of same going to the other TV's, then you connect the RF output from the modulator into one input and the lead from the aerial into the other.

This said on the assumption that you are not using a magic eye on any of the remotely located TV's.


Programmable Universal Modulator : Video Switches : Maplin Electronics
jb38
Wednesday 13 March 2013 1:12PM
Geoff Carter: Just a small correction with regards to the RF modulator, please ignore comments made concerning the necessity of having to use a "Y" piece combiner as I forgot that this model offers this facility, and so you use it in exactly the same way as done with the Sky box.
Geoff Carter
Wednesday 13 March 2013 3:13PM
Geoff Carter: Thanks JB38 Yes want to use majic eyes in every room as did with Sky + Do you no if a Vision V40 modulator will work??
jb38
Thursday 14 March 2013 6:24PM
Geoff Carter: Although the Vision V40 is obviously a well designed modulator, however on studying the specifications of the device it would appear that it is simply an RF modulator with no means of enabling viewers of remotely positioned TV's to control the Freesat box.

But though the link provided below is for a device called a Triax Tri-link which does provide this facility in a roughly similar fashion to that of the Sky box, albeit that channel changing is achieved via an IR link positioned near to the Freesat box in the same way as used by video sender units, it would also appear that the other advantage with this device is that you can use your existing Sky magic eyes rather than having to purchase any additional to the kit.

Of course the only problem that I can see with any of these devices is that the bedrooms have to be supplied with an additional remote control over that used by the TV, the additional remote control using the same IR code as that of the Freesat box in the same way as is necessary with Sky, the only problem there being that Sky remotes can be obtained relatively cheaply whereas not for the Freesat box.

By the way, I have no personal knowledge of this device and as such cannot give any guarantees with regards to its reliability, as all of these devices are prone to being interfered with from a variety of sources.


www.tradeworks.tv link icon  Triax Tri Link Kit
les
Monday 18 March 2013 8:05PM
Hi
I have just had youview put on my tv, can I have freesat
on the same tv,
Steve P
Tuesday 19 March 2013 7:47PM Wrexham
les - so long as you have a spare input to use from your freesat box - most will have both HDMI and SCART outputs - you can have as many different inputs as you like. I have both Freeview and Freesat.
les
Wednesday 20 March 2013 7:28PM
Cheers Steve
I'm looking at a humax box for the freesat, I will check the outputs.
Thanks again
Les
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