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Mark Fletcher
Friday 6 April 2012 5:43PM Halifax
Rosy Martin.London.If you give a full postcode im sure the true pros on here will give more valuable information as such,similar to a patient describing their symptoms to a doctor who provides medicine for treatment.
By the way you just stated that the council landlord has installed a new aerial on your roof,is it polarised horizontally and directed at Crystal Palace transmitter,and most importantly is it coloured red at the tips which denotes a group A aerial or is it coloured black at its tips which denotes a group W wideband aerial and the wrong aerial erected if you reside in a poor/marginal signal area within all group A Crystal Palace mast.
If what you implied misses the channels you mentioned multiplex 2 on frequency 22 then the chances are the new aerial which could be a group W wideband inferior quality contract aerial often on the lowest frequencies will fail in rare cases to pick up that particular frequency itself.
But then again i would wait until after DSO2 is completed come Wednesday 18 April 2012 as the new post-DSO higher powered 200 kw multiplexes come on air,multiplex D3+4 on frequency 26 after DSO2 will be 10 times more powerful than the present 20 kw multiplex 2 on frequency 22.
Richard Crook
Friday 6 April 2012 6:26PM
I note that the Pioneer set top box DBR-TF100 is not in the list of boxes which do not work after digital switchover. It should be in the list as it does not operate satisfactorily with the 8K carrier mode. Frequent picture breakup is the symptom.

This is discussed in the forums and acknowledged by Pioneer. They claim to have a fix which entails sending the box to their service centre, £25.00 plus P&P both ways. They discourage returning the box and will not publish details of the modification.
jb38
Friday 6 April 2012 6:39PM
Aaron: If you have access to a set top aerial plug that in and carry out a manual tune of Ch23 "if" your device allows manual tuning, other wise its an auto tune, this being necessary as the BBC mux channel will NOT be stored in the TV's memory and you have no way of picking it up unless it is.

The reason for the set top aerial being suggested, or even a piece of copper wire about 8 inches long pushed into the inner part of the aerial socket, is that by you being located at only 3 miles away from Crystal Palaces 200Kw BBC transmitter its a wonder that you can receive anything, and so the possibility always exists that the excessively high level of signal from the BBC mux is being blocked in the tuner, and this is something that has to be eliminated, that is as well as taking the other valid points into account as raised by Mark Fletcher and Dave Lindsay respectively.
SPARKY
Friday 6 April 2012 11:36PM
sparky:
Hi jb38,/Dave

When viewing bbc1 or any other BBC channel on c23 the picture is perfect,no noise,no banding or cross hatching(it's a old sony CRT which I am quite partial to)!

When I try to record say BBC1 whilst watching BBC1 the picture freezes then blanks or pixalates ,the actual recording is the same,also all the other BBC channels freeze and pixalate at the same time,except those on epg 802 and 803.BBC radio stations on 700 are also degraded,those on 800 are not affected.

When I record itv1 it records normally, picture unaffected ,recording perfect.

The PVR is a digihome 160 PVR twin tuner(I only found this out today-it's written on the front!) never had any trouble with it at all until this changeover.
at the back it has two aerial Sockets “in “and two “out,”one of the out sockets is strapped to the in socket of the other tuner,I tried removing this strap and tried two aerials,it does not respond to the second aerial which reports no signal.

I have tried an experiment with the set top aerial,stood it behind the aluminium blind (closed) and partially covered it with baking foil,this brought the BBC signal to the point of breaking up so I removed some of the foil until the picture stabilised then tried recording..still the same problem.

I have ordered an attenuator which I should be able to pick up tomorrow.


Thanks
gabby
Saturday 7 April 2012 12:32AM
Getting No signal msg & have done lnb, planner rebuild, upgrade & reset - not in that order but done! Called sky & the only extra advice was to swap rhw dish input cables around? Oh & to then book an engineer at a cost of 65 min. Yet to physically check the dish but have now swapped our sky+ box with my sister who never had any probs & is a newer model but still No signal msg appears! Would this definitely mean a dish rather than box problem? Any suggestions apprecitated
sparky
Saturday 7 April 2012 8:51AM
sparky: hi jb38/Dave

just found a site www.vestelpvr.futaura.co.uk link icon Unofficial Vestel PVR Information (UK) - Home
apparently this record problem is a known fault with this model of pvr,it mentions a software upgrade for other later models but not my one,when the other channels get fully switched over they may display the same behaviour ..looks like the easy way out(apart from the cost) is a new pvr,
jb38
Saturday 7 April 2012 9:08AM
sparky: You have just beat me to it, as when you mentioned the model I was going to say that if it still cannot record using the set top aerial then the device requires an upgrade, the problem there being that any over air upgrades from recent times have not been for that chassis, if as I suspect its a T810 depending on the age of the unit.

I was also going to say that its not worth the bother trying to do it in conjunction with a PC either (an RS232 cable between both) as its fraught with the danger that after having gone to the trouble of downloading the software etc that any slight glitch that might occur during the upgrade will render the device useless.

A good and reasonably priced upgrade to that model is the current Hitachi HDR325 twin tuner 320gb PVR sold by Argos, as these have the same user friendly remote control menu systems used by all Vestel chassis devices.
jb38
Saturday 7 April 2012 9:16AM
sparky: Also meant to say to say that I would be interested to know what software version your box has, this accessed by pressing Menu - set up - configuration.
jb38
Saturday 7 April 2012 9:32AM
gabby: Well it would suggest that the dish has moved out of alignment, as if you have tried both of the leads from the dish in turn into the boxes No1 input (dont use 2) then its nearly impossible for both sections in the LNB to have developed a fault at the same time as they totally independent of each other.

Cant you reach the dish? as if you can then a slight tap on one side of the dish or the other might get the picture back again, as the movement necessary to lose the signal is so small that it cannot be detected by looking at it.

Needless to say leave the Sky box on its signal check screen whilst you are touching anything, as variations in the strength / quality indications will be seen well before any picture can be resolved and that why it should be left on that menu for instant visual feedback on what is happening during any alterations made.
sparky
Saturday 7 April 2012 9:42AM
sparky:jb38
Software version is the latest for this model t810 v5.7 .
about yr2006.(not bad for 6 years use)
An upgrade is mentioned for a later model t825 software version v.13 but nothing for this model.
regarding the recording from a set top aerial,it will record the commercial channels correctly but not the BBC ones.

The reason I have kept this PVR is that I like the EPG style and simplicity of the controls,could have done with a series record facility though.

I will investigate the model you mention,thanks again for your help.
eric ogilvie
Saturday 7 April 2012 12:29PM Weymouth
All I want to know is what channels can I receive in preston weymouth if I buy a freeview receiver and cancel sky
jb38
Saturday 7 April 2012 12:56PM
sparky: Thanks for the update re software version etc, v5.7 suggesting that you do have the T810 chassis, the dastardly thing about this type of problem being that come the 18th you will likely find that it wont then just be confined to the BBC but all channels.

Although unsure of what site you have been having a look at, but the whole situation with these download into PC then transfer to PVR procedures have elements of the hit and miss involved, as in some cases although an upgrade might possibly have cured one problem its frequently found that another has cropped up, this is why that even I as engineer don't find the effort and sheer inconvenience to be worth the bother, especially if a device is a few years old.

By the way I only requested you try a recording with the set top aerial as signal strengths (especially excessive) can actually result in certain type of problems these older boxes are prone to being exaggerated.

Regarding the Hitachi HDR325, one of my PVR's is the older version of this box but later than your own one, and although I also have Humax PVR's (inc Sat version) the sheer user friendly logical arrangement of the menus used in Vestel chassis beats Humax any day with the HDR325 retaining this system, as I have installed these for a couple of relatives recently who aren't exactly the sharpest when it comes to operating modern equipment and feedback suggests them being delighted with the box.

By the way this box also has an eco friendly standby as well as auto power down, but thankfully these are switchable from the configuration menu and left off, as when on they break the RF loop through to the TV after about 5 minutes or so when the box is placed in standby.

PS : I noticed that Argos is offering £10.00 off if over £100.00 is spent, so that makes the HDR even better value for a 320gb twin tuner PVR.
Dave Lindsay
Saturday 7 April 2012 2:02PM
Eric Ogilvie: I don't think that you have chance of receiving all the Freeview channels at your location. I believe that you will only be able to receive the Public Service channels. You would probably be best advised to look at Freesat (or maybe Freesat from Sky) if you would like more channels than the basic Freeview which is available to you.

The issue is that the Commercial broadcasters (known as the "COMs") operate to make a profit first. It's up to them where they transmit from and they decided to broadcast from 80 of the biggest transmitters (by population) which gives them a 90% coverage. To broadcast from the 1000 or so small relay transmitters would roughly double their costs of transmission whilst only adding a further 8.5% of the population. When asked, they declined to increase their coverage.

For a more in depth explanation, see www.ukfree.tv link icon Will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice


Unfortunately, due to the terrain, you are unable to receive from Stockland Hill which is one of the main stations that carries the COMs. Your area is served by the Preston and Weymouth relays which are Public Service Broadcaster (PSB) transmitters only.


PSB services are BBC, ITV1, ITV1+1, ITV2, Channel 4, E4, More 4, Channel 5, BBC One HD, BBC HD, ITV1 HD, Channel 4 HD and a few others).
Mel Latter
Sunday 8 April 2012 6:03PM
Last week when I switched on my recorder, after a week of not using it, digital channels came up as "No Signal."
I had read that Meridian were changing things about this time so I retuned. It presented me with 9 analogue channels but no digital channels at all. I repeated the retuning but got the same result.
I went to the set top box and retuned that. I got a load of digital channels but not ITV1, Ch4, or 5. They are not on numbers 3, 4 and 5 or anywhere else
Do I have to buy a new DVD recorder and set-top box or can it be solved by getting a new aerial? Did I get a Freeview recorder and set-top box too soon?
jb38
Sunday 8 April 2012 6:59PM
Mel Latter: As your question is one involving reception then you really have to provide info regarding your location, this preferably in the form of a post code or one from very near by, as that will then enable the signal levels expected at your location to be assessed.
Chris.SE
Monday 9 April 2012 3:42AM
sparky:
I wouldn't give up with that "Digihome" just yet.
It has the latest software version for that model which "should" cope with the current transmissions.
I suspect overload could be the problem. Whilst there is no reason not to look at the PVR jb38 has mentioned, as far as the Digihome is concerned there is another possibility.
With the rough location and height you mentioned you may have picked up another transmitter as all surrounding transmitters are now on high power. Quoting your postcode would enable a more informed comment on that.
Otherwise I'd wait until the 18th and have a final play with the attenuator - of course if you have an aerial amplifier, this should be removed if the attenuator seems to solve the problem.
Briantist
Monday 9 April 2012 3:38PM
NottsUK: Thanks for the notification about the changes to the name of the Eutelsat birds.
Angela
Monday 9 April 2012 4:48PM Barking
Hi I have put my tv back on factory settings but I have lost all but 4 random channels what can I do? Is this because i forgot to retune on the 4th of April?how can I fix this my postcode is IG11 8QG.
Brenda Singfield
Monday 9 April 2012 5:38PM
Hi
I have a sky+ box which I was thinking of taking to my mobile home in the south of France - I currently have a free sat box there and receive the expected channels. If I replace the lnb with a twin down there will I be able to record one channel and watch another via my sky+ box?
Tim
Monday 9 April 2012 7:55PM Paignton
HaI live in the Torbay area and have had successful freesat reception. I currently have a Panasonic TX-L42D25BA LED/LCD TV.
Just recently the program guide has become very slow to populate and gives 'NO RESULTS'when using the search function for programmes occuring 24hrs+. Picture quality is ok with occasional break up during very bad weather.
Any ideas?
jb38
Monday 9 April 2012 8:19PM
Brenda Singfield: If your Freesat box is working OK at that location with the dish thats installed, then if you change the LNB to either a dual or a quad block and run an extra cable from the LNB then your Sky+ box will work OK the way you want but "only" if you are keeping the subscription running, as if not Sky will disable the recording side of the box and this includes play back of anything previously recorded.

By the way I only mentioned a quad LNB as not only are they only fractionally more expensive than a dual, but its handy to have two spare outlets should at any time you wish to add a Freesat dual channel PVR or similar.
jb38
Monday 9 April 2012 8:30PM
Tim: Go into your TV's signal check screen and make sure that both the signal strength & quality levels are seen to be level pegging at about 75% or so, but if the quality is seen to be lagging to any extent then the dish is a fraction out of alignment, this most likely in the horizontal (left to right) plane.

If though the levels appear to be OK, then carry out a factory reset on the TV followed by a re-tune, this action will of course result in you losing any personal settings you may have carried out, like favourites etc.
David Moore
Monday 9 April 2012 8:42PM Wimborne
I'm in the Rowridge transmitter area. Since the switchover I have a strange problem: I retuned the TV - all channels present with max signal strength and quality. BUT, on BBC4 the picture and sound disappear after a few seconds leaving a grey screen. If I bring up the EPG, it reappears. If I bring up any menu item, it reappears. When I go back to the programme it goes again after a few seconds. I can watch only if some other function is on the screen as well. I have tried retuning again, no change. Any ideas? It was OK before the switchover and subsequent retuning.
Brenda Singfield
Tuesday 10 April 2012 12:48AM
jb38: Thanks for your help - I had a niggle that I would not be able to record but wasn't sure - think I need to get a twin tuner free sat box instead - thanks again
D Cooper
Tuesday 10 April 2012 1:31AM
Hi there, does anyone have any idea which government department is responsible for T.V. broadcasting / digital switchover? In particular, I'm looking for this info in relation to N.I. Many Tanx.
Julian Smith
Tuesday 10 April 2012 10:30AM
I live in Gosport, Hants and receive Freeview from the Rowridge transmitter. Most of the channels show high signal strength but the exception is the MUX which includes the Yesterday channel. All those channels are shown as low strength.

I have checked a couple of other installations in my local area and they show the same problem. Any ideas why this should be?
Briantist
Tuesday 10 April 2012 10:51AM
Julian Smith: Until 18th April 2012, the ArqB multiplex is on low power. You will have to wait until a week tomorrow to have the full power service.
David Brinkman
Tuesday 10 April 2012 2:09PM Poole
I live in Poole (BH14 8EE) For the last 8 years I have been receiving a good Freeview signal from Rowbridge although technically just outside the area.
Since the switchover I can now only received the ITV channels on channel 37 and no reception from channels 21,24,30, 33 37.
I have a sony KDL-26U3000 a Panasonic TX-L37G20B (I know I've also got freesat) and a Panasonic Freeview HD recorder.

Both TV's are on separate aerials both in the roofspace.
Any help or assistance gratefully received, Digital UK have been hopeless and the BBC not much better.
Colin
Tuesday 10 April 2012 5:44PM Barking
Angela: I do not know if this information is any use to you but I posted the same type of question a few days back {and had no answers from people on here} today we phone the "service company" for the local council and had an aerial repair person this afternoon. He informed me that {after checking} the communial aerial had "tripped out" {I do not understand what he meant by that} but whatever he did worked, I did a retune on all our TV's and apart from not getting ITV1, Channel4 and Channel5 all the others {as far as I can tell} are now back.
If you are still in the same situation from when you posted phone "Enterprise" and let them know

jb38
Tuesday 10 April 2012 8:45PM
Angela: If I could just give another angle on this, as you are located at only 11 miles away from Crystal Palace then depending on the aerial system you use its possible that you could be receiving an excessively high level of signal from the high powered BBC transmitter, and which can in certain instances affect reception from the lower the powered transmitters, albeit this will all change on the 18th.

Just for a test, if you have a set top aerial lying around plug that in and carry out another re-tune.

By the way, it doesnt matter if a person misses a re-tune event as this is instantly corrected by any subsequent re-tune thats made.
Eric T
Wednesday 11 April 2012 2:57PM
How do I change channel to receive itv east midlands news instead of central midlands. When I auto retune it tunes in to central. My arial was originally set to receive east midlands. This problem occurred when I retuned to receive 5+1. I have a Sony Bravia.
jb38
Wednesday 11 April 2012 9:56PM
David Brinkman: Thanks for that update, and which was very revealing insomuch that what you have reported somewhat falls in line with what's seen forecast for your area, as even although the predictions made have always to be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt, but when they are backed up with signal reports such as you have given from the actual area then they cannot be totally discounted.

As far as your problem is concerned, on-site testing is about the only thing that can positively prove this or otherwise, but I strongly suspect that "if" the reasonable level of signal that you were previously receiving did suddenly change at switch over (exactly on) then it was most likely because the signal you were previously receiving was only possible because it was being reflected off some no too distant object of a stable nature, the problem experienced now being that the signal path between the mast and you has changed slightly with the increase in transmission power and is not now being reflected from whatever, hence the reason for your signal taking a dive, as its quite inconceivable for anyone picking up a signal from an "out of area" location to enjoy reasonable reception from a 20Kw transmitter but not when it powers up to 200Kw.

About the only things that could cause this being that the powerful signal is blocking your tuners input, (or aerial amp if you use one) but this possible overload theory was eliminated by the negative result from the aerials "just about out" coax plug test which proved that your TV's tuner is not being blocked by an excessively high level of signal, that said though if it was an aerial amp overload problem then you would not know this, as the indications seen on the TV would be similar to what you have reported, so keep this in mind "if" you have an aerial amp. So this only leaves the previously received reflection theory, as I know through my personal experience in my non-domestic role (not TV TX's) that in a difficult reception area an increase in transmission power can sometimes have adverse affects of the nature described.

These things applying, I cant really cant see your situation improving as far as reception is concerned without possibly allocating some time to carry out a few experiments with your aerial, the first and easiest task being to turn the aerial used to feed the G20 to its vertical position and make sure that its actually pointing at 95 degrees, as Rowridge's Vertical polarity TX aerials are the only ones presently indicated as being able to providing satisfactory reception, and I use the word "presently" because that according to the predictions seen on the 18th the BBC (V pol) muxes take a step backwards by entering the status of variable, and with the commercials actually starting on, and remaining permanently with the same variable status.

By the way the changing reflection situation referred to is not that unusual in most non line of site reception areas albeit that most are unaware of it occurring unless their signal gets slightly degraded, and indeed was in evidence in my own reception area although in reverse, as when the East Midlands Waltham transmitter switched over to high power I noticed a few comments being made that reception was excellent if the aerial was turned slightly clockwise (taking it slightly out of alignment) and was something which I had already noticed myself and likewise corrected.

PS: The technicalities attached to the G20 have been eliminated from this as that model is bang up to date.
dennis starr
Wednesday 11 April 2012 10:17PM
I receive Eurosport International with English sound on Astra 19.2 analogue.
This service is closing and going Digital on
31st April.If I swap my Analogue box for a
digital one,will I still be able to receive
my Eurosport with English sound or will it only be in German?
NottsUK
Thursday 12 April 2012 11:50AM
Briantist: At the moment there are three Disney channels transmitting free to air on Astra 1N frequency 10921. They are Disney Channel, Disney Cinemagic and Disney XD. All three channels are transmitting in HD 1920x1080 pixels. I can't see them being free to air for much longer.
Briantist
Friday 13 April 2012 5:44PM
NottsUK: Thanks for that. I will have a look at them when I get in (if they are still there).
NottsUK
Monday 16 April 2012 11:45AM
Briantist: The three HD Disney channels are free-to-air again this morning on transponder frequency 10921. They are identified by their SID numbers, 4016, 4017 and 4018.
Yvonne Boyd
Monday 16 April 2012 4:51PM
I have a Grundig gufsat01sd freesat box. Took mny tv away in caravan last week and on return reconnected it as usual. However, all I get is NO SIGNAL, and I cannot get any input from the freesat box (menu etc.) Have tried retuning the Hitachi TV but when input set to SCART (my box is connected to tv with this cable) have no access to the re-tune button. Cann only get access to the reinstall button when input is to analogue and of course it doesn't pick up any stations. I suspect all is not well with the freesat box, but is there any way I can find out if I am getting a signal from my satellite dish? Don't want to get tv engineer in if satbox is u.s.
Thanks
jb38
Monday 16 April 2012 6:10PM
Yvonne Boyd: If your Grundig box is connected to the TV via a scart lead then the TV's tuning menu is not connected in any way to the operation of the Grundig, as if the TV's input is set to the socket that the scart is connected into then the Grundig's menu should be seen, if it isn't then there is something amiss with the Grundig or the connections to, double check the lead from the dish.

Likewise if your normal aerial is plugged straight into your TV and DVB or "D" is selected on your TV's remote control you should then be able to scan for Freeview channels, "if" that is your TV is also capable of Freeview reception and not just an analogue device. (model number required if in doubt)

Yvonne Boyd
Monday 16 April 2012 7:07PM
jb38 - thanks for your comments. When I set the TV's input to the scart socket, and connect the grundig box to it via the scart lead, there is no sign of the grundig menu, only the words No Signal. The aerial was professionally installed from a previous Sky sat dish, and is connected to the grundig box with a nut to strengthen theconnection. It has worked perfectly until now. I don't think the aerial will connect directly to the TV (which is a Hitachi L19HH01UB) and as its from a sat dish probably wouldn't receive Freeview ?
jinxy209
Monday 16 April 2012 8:16PM
Hi , can you please tell me if it is the local councils responsibility to ensure tenants in towerblocks have their communal aerials updated? My local council (Greenwich)will not have all flats connected in time for the switch over and people will be left without tv for at least a week.
jb38
Monday 16 April 2012 8:22PM
Yvonne Boyd: If you have connected the Grundig boxes "TV scart" socket (furthest away from the LNB connection) and the TV is set to scart input then if you press the "menu" button on the Grundig's remote control (under the "0" button) the menu should appear whether or not a signal is received, if you don't see the menu appear then that's inclined to indicate that the no signal warning is the actual TV not receiving anything because its still sitting on its internal tuner and not the scart socket.

However if you definitely are on the box then check that the dish is connected to the Grundig's "outer" LNB input socket, as you will get a no signal warning if its accidentally been connected to the inner one.
jb38
Monday 16 April 2012 8:33PM
Yvonne Boyd: Meant also to add, that I see your TV is a Freeview HD ready TV with one scart socket and two HDMI ports, but judging by what you have said it would appear that you only have a dish connection and dont have a normal roof (or loft) mounted aerial hence why you cannot receive Freeview, that is "if" you reside in an area where it can be received!
Yvonne Boyd
Monday 16 April 2012 8:57PM
jb38 Thanks for the time you have spent - had a brainwave and changed my Scart lead - and have now got reception! Picture not 100% but will invest in a better lead tomorrow. Sorry to have overlooked such a basic action. Thanks again for your help.
jb38
Monday 16 April 2012 8:59PM
Yvonne Boyd: Pleased to hear that all is OK now, as it just had to be something simple.
Dave Lindsay
Monday 16 April 2012 9:01PM
jinxy209: I assume that tennants' contracts may state who is responsible, if at all, for provision of any communal aerial system.

Do you not have an aerial system already? If so, have you tried tuning in Freeview and if so, what do you get?
jinxy209
Tuesday 17 April 2012 8:10PM
Hi Dave, currently we have a cable system into each flat, and the main communal aerial was disgarded for this a number of years ago.The council are tendering out the contract to install a communal one which involves rewiring into each flat. I am only able to get the regular 5 channels and do not wish to subscribe to virgin/sky as the main councellor dealing with this thinks tenants should!
Dave Lindsay
Tuesday 17 April 2012 8:40PM
jinxy209: If you get 5 channels using a set-top aerial, then you may be able to receive Freeview channels from tomorrow.

If you face Crystal Palace which is south west, then you have a better chance than if you don't. The higher up you are, the greater your chance of receiving signals. So if you're above the rooves of surrounding buildings and facing south-west, I think you have a good chance. If your lower down it may still work.

If the powers that be will be installing an aerial system in the coming weeks (or months), then you will need a Freeview receiver. If your TV does not have one built in, then you might as well buy one now and try it out with your set-top aerial.

If your flat faces a different direction, you may be able to receive from another transmitter. Woolwich is to your north east, although it doesn't broadcast all the channels, but it does give you more than the current five "main" channels.

If you would like some help with this, let us know some more information such as how high up you are and what direction you are facing.
Mark
Tuesday 17 April 2012 9:21PM
On the 4th of April 2012 following switch over I re-scanned my digi box and sucessfully recieved all free view channels. 2 days later I lost all ch4, ch5 and Itv channels on BOTH digi boxes in my house (2 x TVs). I have continuusly re-scanned both digi boxs but am not able to revieve the above channels.
I have a new digital arial installed in my loft and have never had a problem recieving free view before.
Can anyone suggest what the problem may be please?
Dave Lindsay
Tuesday 17 April 2012 9:28PM
Mark: It's probably the difference in strength between the now strong BBC signals and the (weaker) other channels.

Tomorrow you will have to retune again, once all the non-BBC channels have also switched to full power. So your problem should hopefully be rectified tomorrow.
Neale Wilton
Wednesday 18 April 2012 9:03AM Leicester
Neale Wilton
Wednesday 18 April 2012 9:05AM Leicester
Neale Wilton:



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