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What price for an aerial installation?

What prices have you been quoted and paid for an aerial installation?

What prices have you been quoted and paid for an aerial install
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In responses to the guideline I posted about how much having a new aerial fitted should cost, Ian Grice posted: "£40-£50? Every aerial fitter I contacted wants at least £150+VAT considering you can get a class 3 aerial for under £10 and a class 2 for under £15 and cable is 40p a metre why are they charging so much for 30 minutes work?"

OK, for some places putting up a TV aerial is hard work, such as multi-story properties. As many people will simply be exchanging a Group A, B, C/D, E or K aerial for a wideband type, often without changing the supporting pole or cable, a high price cannot be justified.

I am concerned that some companies will exploit vulnerable groups (such as the elderly).

So, I what prices have you been quoted for aerial installations? What price have you paid for installation?

Do you know of any companies to avoid? Do you know of any companies that are good value for money?

Or do you work for a great aerial installation company?





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Ian
Sunday 3 July 2011 11:03PM
I was reading your post Craig and then you wrote 'Digital Aerial', it was at this point I realised that you don't know what you are talking about and are therefore are talking out of your backside!
jb38
Monday 4 July 2011 8:45AM
Ian; Surely Craig P's comment re "digital aerial" was simply a slip of the tongue, so to speak! as otherwise to that I thought that what he had said was representative of a fair minded person working for what can only be classed as a very modest profit.
Nick Waring
Monday 4 July 2011 6:43PM
Aerial contractors wanted to do sub contract work in all areas.Hi guys im from www.wefitaerials.com we are looking for proffesional contractors to do aerial work in all areas,if your interested log onto our website & send us your details.
Gary
Monday 4 July 2011 7:54PM
I am totally useless at these kind of techie things, I currently have Sky in 2 rooms and standard co-axle points in three other rooms.Can I use the spare ports at my Sky dish to run "Digital TV" connections to my other rooms.

Thanks for help, oh and I am in SW Scotland we are already past the DSO Date here!
jb38
Monday 4 July 2011 8:48PM
Gary: The spare LNB ports on your Sky dish can be used to feed points in other rooms provided its Freesat you are thinking about and NOT Freeview, that being terrestrial based and received via a normal aerial.

LNB ports are totally independent of each other, and can be used for a combination of Sky and Freesat.
Ian
Tuesday 5 July 2011 5:14PM
Nick Waring, all you are doing is creating ‘Another 'Middle' Man', why would successful aerial installers want a middle man when all you probably want is a cut of their installer takings.

I look on people like you as leaches.
pmullans
Wednesday 6 July 2011 1:51PM
I've recently had an aerial fitted (£180) on a single story extension behind the house, and my neighbour has complained that it spoils their view. We also have an aerial on the main house, and the house is in a conservation area.
They have contacted the local council planners, who have given them guidance. They say the aerial should have a maximum dimension of 60cm and should not extend above the ridge line of the building.
I asked the aerial fitter to come back and have a look, and he said he can't get an aerial that small (and if he could, it wouldn't give a very good signal), and that every aerial he has fitted for the last ten years must be illegal, and every aerial on surrounding houses must be illegal, so he refuses to do anything. I can see his point.
I called the council planning department, who say it's my problem...
Has anyone met this situation before? Can anyone offer any advice?
Mike Dimmick
Wednesday 6 July 2011 2:28PM
pmullans: Yes, TV aerials just don't come that short. See www.aerialsandtv.com link icon ATV`s Choice Of Aerials for digital TV for some example dimensions. That site doesn't list 'contract'-type aerials, which might be short enough, but might not give good enough performance - it depends where you are.

I do find that aerial installers tend to overdo it, fitting aerials that are way too big. Their tendency to use wideband aerials where they are not necessary causes size inflation too, because you can use a much smaller grouped aerial for the same amount of gain, particularly in the lower frequency groups.

A grid or billboard aerial is a possibility, particularly if your region has already switched over.

You could also try splitting the output of the aerial on the main house - to which I presume there are no objections! - and distributing that to the other location. You might need a small amplifier to offset the loss through the splitter and in the additional cable. If your region has not yet switched over, I would recommend using a separate amplifier and splitter, rather than a powered splitter, so that you can remove the amplifier after switchover if it is no longer necessary.
pmullans
Wednesday 6 July 2011 3:54PM
Thanks Mike - very useful information and much appreciated!
P
steveh
Wednesday 6 July 2011 5:20PM
pmullans, i think the council have got their wires crossed and are talking about the regulations about satellite dishes. when sky started over 20 years ago their dishes needed to be 60cm so that was the size deemed acceptable. most councils nowadays turn a blind eye in these days of bigger polish dishes etc unless some busybody complains
pmullans
Wednesday 6 July 2011 5:55PM
I think you're right, but the booklet from the government website ("A householder's planning guide for the installation of antennas, including satellite dishes") seems to include TV aerials.

However, I've now found a planning officer at the local council who seems willing to give an opinion, and he basically said to ignore the regulations, as they would never prosecute anyone over a TV aerial..!

Thanks for all your help.
P
Mazbar
Wednesday 6 July 2011 7:10PM
Hi pmullins i had this problem with the local planning department and a problem neighbour. The set size for a tv aerial is normaly 95 cm not 60 you could apply for planing permition. Being in a conservation area could work in your favour if you could make it seam as you are replacing like for like you dont have to pay for the planing. They will take a look at the aerial and if it has been hiden as best as your aerial rigger could do you should be ok they dont normaly care what your neighbour thinks hope everything is ok. By the way why didnt your rigger put a masthead amp on your main aerial and run extra coax to your extention this could have saved you any problem.
pmullans
Wednesday 6 July 2011 8:07PM
That would have been a good solution, but he didn't suggest it, and I didn't have the knowledge to think of it.
Thanks!
P
KB Aerials Sheffield
Wednesday 6 July 2011 10:01PM
I once had a next door neighbour demand i removed an aerial as the lashing wire was on his half of the chimney! WTF
Craig P
Friday 8 July 2011 12:34AM
IAN,

By Digital I was reffering to an aerial which is designed and built for the effective reception of Freeview signal's, which is commonly know by the general public as digital tv or "digi!" or even that great big well known firm from day's gone by, known as "OnDigital" why did they choose that name I wonder ? but to answer your statement I must first ask this question, " how can a person who has repaired tv equipment, installed aerial's, installed, programmed, repaired and maintained Professional Comms equipment including PMR Radio, Trunked Radio systems,GSM equipment for the past 16 years (i.e. since the age of 15) and is CAI approved.........."

How Can I posibly be talking out of my backside simply because I mentioned a commonly used term of "Digital Aerial"??????????????
Ian
Friday 8 July 2011 8:44AM
‘Commonly used’…..mostly by people outside the trade with little or no technical knowledge. You claim to be CAI Approved (and we all know approval is not difficult to obtain, you don’t even need the correct tools anymore), you should then know that there is no such thing as a ‘digital aerial’. Even the CAI don’t call them such, they are referred to as Benchmarked Aerials which are ‘Digital Compatible’. If you were to advertise that you fit ‘digital aerials’ or you were to tell a customer that you have fitted them a ‘digital aerial’ you could find yourself in hot water with Trading Standards being as you would have committed an offence under the ‘Trade Descriptions Act 1968’. As far as your ‘CAI Approval’ goes, I understand that in order to squeeze more money from their members the CAI is rebranding their training / certificate schemes and are looking at creating a ‘CAI Diploma’, of course in a few years’ time when this has also become worthless they might then think about creating a ‘CAI Degree’, to squeeze the members for some more of their hard earned income.

If you are a proper engineer then use the correct terms to educate the other users and not layman’s terms which only confuses the issue.
KB Aerials Sheffield
Friday 8 July 2011 8:22PM
A lot of people make the mistake of calling an aerial for digital reception a digital aerial - its an easy slip of the tongue (keyboard) we get asked on a daily basis "do you install digital aerials" so correcting people virtually every phone call becomes a chore
how many people call a Dyson a hoover - virtually every one does how many people used to call a portable cassette player a walkman or a ball point pen a biro Ian I think your being a bit harsh to craig - ive made slip of the tongue - I know there is no such thing as a "digital aerial" as the means for broadcasting uhf is still the same you still need an aerial tuned to a particular set of frequencies wether its a wide band a group A B K C/D I try ever so hard not to call an aerial a digital aerial and I do correct people but when I correct people they just look at me as if im not of this planet the more intellectual would call it being pedantic
KB Aerials Sheffield
Friday 8 July 2011 8:25PM
Oh and craig - whoever branded "On Digital" was a genius so so simple name but you say it virtually every time you tune a tv in

Yes madam that channel is ON DIGITAL -- Makes me smile inwardly every time i say it!
Ian
Saturday 9 July 2011 5:45AM
Guys your trade should be regulated properly like Niceic registered contractors,
I have had aerial installers in the past go to my clients and I end up with having calls complaining about the aerial installer.
I ask y? And the responses are!!!
He was in a rush! Workmanship is shocking! Very ignorant as he just wanted the money and be gone, had no respect for our hse as his client! He was originally asked to connect new tv equipment and left half of it saying don't have time but he quoted for it,, but stil wanted full payment! ( cowboy)!!
We started doing the aerials ourselves just to stop having these complaints which has been successful.
Mazbar
Saturday 9 July 2011 6:54AM
No ian you started doing aerials to make more money. If you have just started doing the aerials yourself you will be making a mess yourself ie wall brackets on the chimney or very poor lashings with the j bolts fully tightend up that go slack very quickley. If you had a poor experiance with an rigger why did you use him again or did you have a bad experance with one and tar all of us with the same brush. Stop giving yiur customers a poor job and find a good rigger who does a proper job. By the way did the rigger charge for fitting the tv i know i dont if i am called out to do an aerial but if they want it fitting to a wall there would be an extra charge. Also conecting the equipment up is fine but it can take longer than the jobitself to show people how there new equipment works. So ian dont be the cowboy get somebody who is trained to do the job and is insured to do the job because uf you are a spark or a tv shop you your public insurance wont cover you to go on a roof and do aerial work .
KB Aerials Sheffield
Saturday 9 July 2011 9:38AM
Mazbar I agree with you

But Ian -- I also agree with you in the respect that our industry should be regulated - like gas safe like Niceic

Bring it on would love to get rid of the cowboys
KB Aerials Sheffield
Saturday 9 July 2011 9:53AM
Mazbar - you have to admit that any one with a halfords budget socket set a van who has a mate as a sign writer and can borrow his dads ladders (when hes not window cleaning) - can walk into blakes (in sheffield other aerial shops are available) buy a contract aerial and a roll of rg6 proclaim I am an aerial installer give me the money
- Public liability insurance -- Whats that why do I need it
Working at heights - ropes and harness - for sissies
tying a ladder down in so it doesn't move - don't do that when I clean windows?
Analyser - whats that for I can see the transmitter (now why the hell is there no digital when I have loaded the van back up and am tuning the tv in )
im not saying I was proficient at first not by a long way 22 yrs in the industry and im still learning! - had good teachers though one I will mention - Bill wright (google him wrights aerials) but im in this for the long haul not the quick buck - most of my work is through recommendation

Regulate - get rid of the rotten eggs ! don't see it as a bad thing
marianne hastings
Saturday 9 July 2011 10:15AM
We live near Calstock and have had real problems with all BBC channels over the last week or so. The signal is so bad, the blue and red DAB shows on the TV. All the other freevew channels are absolutly fine, no problems at all. I have retuned but that hasn't helped. BBC was working prefectly at 6.00am this morning but I have just a blank screen now and have to resort to watching on the laptop. Has anybody got any suggestions
jb38
Saturday 9 July 2011 12:03PM
marianne hastings: Assuming you are receiving your signal from Carradon Hill (BBC1 Ch28) your problem could be caused by engineering works at the transmitter, these having been forecast about five days ago and affecting digital TV and radio.

By the way "assuming" was mentioned as reception from two local transmitters are also show as a possibility with your post code, these being Gunnislake @ 1mile and Tavistock @ 4miles.
Les Nicol
Saturday 9 July 2011 12:23PM
Mazbar - K.B. Aerials Sheffield. - seems in some cases there's no ryme nor reason for some planning decisions. I recently installed a motorised dish to the rear of a row of double storey cottages in a conservation village. - 80cm Orbital dish on 4metre stand. - I complied with planning requirements that the installation should not be seen above the roof line viewed from the front of the property and adjoining properties either side. (there's a rise of some thirty feet from the rear door of the property to the installation.) - Looking along from the front of the property again the whole street both sides was festooned with aerials and dishes of all shapes and sizes some to chimney stacks and others bolted to external walls - nothing uniform and a number of very recent installations.. So much for conservation and crazy decision making that applies.
KB Aerials Sheffield
Saturday 9 July 2011 3:10PM
Dont think any one cares about conversation issues - Very rare I get asked - I do always try and do a discreet job where possible especially when its a idyllic location

But Yes - you see 100 cm dish festooned down some streets where its obvious arab sat is required - people dont give a dam by looks of things !
mark winters
Saturday 9 July 2011 8:44PM
just completed tooway sat broadband installation course dish is rather large .
dont think many would like it on the front of their house
KB Aerials Sheffield
Saturday 9 July 2011 10:30PM
Mark - Ive been aproached to do the Tooway Sat broadband installations- filled all details in as yet not heard anything - what size dish was used? - what area of the country do you work in????
mark winters
Saturday 9 July 2011 10:51PM
its an 80 centemetre i done the course near you in das at mansfield im in north devon
i done the course through tooway direct there on the net
Craig P
Sunday 10 July 2011 1:42AM
"stick to re-wire's", and yeah I personally do believe that the aerial industry should be regulated but let's face it yeah NICEIC just take the money and dont really check the job propperly, there "inspector" just turned up with a DL9083P to a job I did recently and said yeah that's about right "tick!!!!!"
KMJ,Derby
Sunday 10 July 2011 10:47AM
Craig P: Regulation only covers the "technical competence" of the installation. A friend, who is quite house-proud was very upset by a team of electricians who didn't appear to care what they were doing. The work was carried out entirely in accordance with the IEE regulations, but sockets were installed at random heights above worktops and re-plastering was very poor including making good damage to the wall in the room behind the one in which they were working.No amount of regulation will alter the attitude of a man with no pride in his work.
mark winters
Sunday 10 July 2011 3:00PM
hi kb did you get my email
KB Aerials Sheffield
Sunday 10 July 2011 5:29PM
Mark - Nope i didn't unfortunately - i checked to make sure ive typed the address correctly and I have ?

puzzling
ian
Saturday 16 July 2011 7:07AM
Mazbar i used 2 riggers and had quotes for some other work from another 2 different riggers and all had attitude and wanted the big bucks!!!
we recently did an installation in coventry putting up the lashing kit and it was better installed than the neighbours who had a rigger do theres 2 weeks prior to us doing ours.
we dont do a poor job pal always a good job you seem a bit oblivious to the fact that other trades CAN do your job as you wouldnt know where to start doing the likes of electrical work oohh unless you have done a part p course to allow you to put a socket in the loft for an amp.
i have always said the hardest thing in wire-ing is electrical work its sure to be true,also we are insured for working from height.
you say a (trained rigger)im assuming this is a rigger with experience of doing the job!!! so in your mind any one wanting to get into aerials and have the (RIGGER) title must get someone trained??
KB Aerials Sheffield
Saturday 16 July 2011 6:01PM
physically Installing an aerial getting a lashing wire terminated properly - using a decent mast and bracket and cai approved cable is easy!


Quiet a statement don't you think

Whats not so easy is getting it all to work - without the correct knowledge of signal loss and co channel interference signal strength - too strong too weak etc etc

thing with electricity (and im not an electrician so I am surmising )is the fact that it comes off the street at 240 volt and has to be 240 volt at all the sockets and that you distribute this 240v around the house

as far as each house goes the aerial reception may be good - or it may be poor - you may have 3 or 4 transmitters all fighting for space - without the correct equipment a decent analyser and knowledge of uhf reception - how the hell do you know if your doing a good job or a bad job- it all may look pretty and stand up against the wind but if it doesn't work its not an aerial but an ornament

Ian you may be lucky - the properties your working on may be in good line of sight of the transmitter - but you get a property that isnt - you go in with all the bravado of "yeah we can do this " you install everything as you did at the previous property but then all of a sudden the customer moves in and has no reception - this is when the Electrician who thinks he knows what hes doing crumbles and gets a PROFESSIONAL in to finish his job and expects to pay peanuts to save his bacon!

Ian if you really know what your doing then do it and don't whinge about us riggers ! - quietly get on with it - take the cash - and hopefully you wont have any hitches -

One day when you do - give us a call

Mazbar
Saturday 16 July 2011 9:36PM Ormskirk
Ian 6 months down the line when you are doing your main job your old job calls you back with a small problem with trees causing problems do you take half a day off and sort out the problem or do you file the call in the bin and never go back. Then a proper rigger has to go back a correct your problem. Being a good rigger doesnt mean getting it right straight away there can allways be problems a good rigger goes back when there is a problem and makes sure that every thing is right. Ian does your public insurance cover you for roof work i would check if i was you if it doesnt and you cause a problem iy could cost you a lot of money.
Mazbar
Saturday 16 July 2011 9:41PM Ormskirk
Ps ian i was trained by my father 30 years doing tv aerials until accident forced him to finish work myself i have been doing this for over 22 years from the age of 16 so i think i do know a lot more about doing tv aerials than you do.
Ian
Sunday 17 July 2011 8:24AM
KB, we are the professional don't claim to know everything but we don't re-visit our work that's the difference, we have done aerials in dodgy areas with poor reception and had to introduce a mast head amp to boost reception. I don't think I will be calling you one day either unless you want to come and work for me and run a new business nationally:)
I was at an hse and could only get BBC channels and wondered why!! And realised you can pick that up down a strand which was the issue noticed exhisting cable was damaged after replacing it it all worked fine.
We also have the test meters which we use and we walk away from our installs working with happy customers.
I'm not whinging about the riggers just stating a fact to mazbars previous comments,I don't doubt you know more than I about aerials as we are constantly asked to do them that's why we started doin aerials you don't turn work down in a recession pal.
KB Aerials Sheffield
Sunday 17 July 2011 11:38AM
ok - you know what your doing - you have the equipment - you have the acumen to do the job and you don't seem to trust anyone else as the people you have come across have had attitudes.

Simple question - why did you try to out source your work?

Below is your original quote

I'm an electrical contractor in west mids and can do aerial installations, I have picked up a job that requires an communal system on 11 apartments each apartment has 2no sky cables the building is wired back to a riser cupboard and all it requires is an aerial and satelite.
I thought I will get the materials and pay someone a fair days pay plus fuel costs, after phoning around for quotes it's become apparent that the installers are asking for footballers wages for one days work which they would get done in half a day, quotes I had was £800 £1000 £700 qualified skilled electricians struggle to get £150 a day and they have done 4 yrs at college
Not a 10 week course.
So Question!! Why are these prices so high?
Also we have customers!! Not victims!

As for running a national company i probably don't have the will or desire to do that - don't want to be a millionaire - just want a happy comftable life and pick my kids up from school every night - which I do - I see and talk to these hungry for money work 24 hours a day guys - they have the big swish houses - several expensive cars and a family who wonder where daddy is - for now until my kids are much older i do 9-3 monday to friday and im dead happy with what I have so -- National company - Headaches - Staff - Wages - constant phone calls - no thanks
Mazbar
Sunday 17 July 2011 1:34PM Ormskirk
Kb a man after my own heart i work 7 days a week but only 8 am till 3 pm i wirk weekends for my customers who work in the week. While my daughter was at junior school i picked her up from school every day. I on the other hand dont over charge £85 for a log periodic fully installed £59 for a rx12 clip on to an extra room and if they need a very high gain like a unix 52 £ 130 i think very reasonable. A word of warning to all riggers out there when you transmitter changes to full digital yiu will get lots of work short term, tune in and a few new aerials but after that the work drys up. Here on the winter hill transmiter the signal is so strong even with an aerial that is broken in half and pointing the wrong way they still get great signal. This has problems gor our customers today went to a house that had water pouring down the coax for at least a year and they didnt know. My work has allmost halfed since the switchover all you can do is make the most of the work that comes in.
KB Aerials Sheffield
Sunday 17 July 2011 2:50PM
yeah got 4 transmitter dates up here emley moor the main transmitter then sheffield belmont and waltham - belmont and sheffield went from group a to wideband - but they are both staying wideband - so whats next job for us guys? do I set up a removals are a house clearing company?
I reckon CCTV and Home Cinema installs may be the way to go - got to branch out and diversify sheffield is really hilly so hopefully I will get a steady stream of work - who knows whats in store - one of my friends is really worried about when they whack the transmitters up (now after your last statement im a little more apprehensive ).
Mazbar
Sunday 17 July 2011 3:25PM Ormskirk
All you can do is try to keep going and hope you last one month more than the other company down the road and you get any work that might have gone his way. At least your tax bill goes down. all we can hope for is a realy poor winter this year with no snow and 100 mph winds. I realy hated going on a roof with 6 inch of snow on it and -16 not fun. Out side it is teaming down with rain 5 years ago i would have had at least 3 to 4 calls even on a sunday not any more hopefuly monday will bring a few calls. Before the switchover i used to order stock every week or every other week last time i went 4 weeks between orders thats when you know you are quiet.
Ian
Sunday 17 July 2011 6:17PM
Dont, Try Electrical work guys 8 til 3 doesn't happen you wouldn't want to be checking your watch at 2:30 trying to sort a problem out (no lights/ power etc)at a customers house thinking got to do the school run!
Solar pv is the way forward but you still need electrical qualifications to do it.

More time to re-train more technical more money more Paperwork! Too hard for you riggers I guess.
KB Aerials Sheffield
Sunday 17 July 2011 6:27PM
Your right Ian - we have a tough old life don't we!
Mazbar
Sunday 17 July 2011 6:40PM Ormskirk
No ian i dont leave a job unfinished i work my day around my life try and get an spark our on a saturday let alone sunday without charging you an arm and leg work it out still doing 49 hour week if the work is there watch the spark when 12 o clock comes 1 hourblunch break. never had one never will i work from 8 till 3
Ian
Sunday 17 July 2011 8:34PM
Different Ian here

I have been busy, so have not put any posts on here for a while. I seem to be joining the back of an arguement here.

To the other Ian, who I gather is the only honest not working for profit sparky in the entire country.

YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE

This web site has been built and maintained by one man who works god knows how many hours every night helping the general public for free.
Every aerial and satellite engineer who makes a comment on here gives up their own time, handing out free advice to many thousands of people in their spare time, all answering every question without charging or asking for anything in return.

And you come onto an aerial and satellite website probably visited by every engineer in the country and say that we all know nothing and work very short hours ripping customers off.

As I said you sound like a dick

We too have to sit exams and health and safety checks, we have to pay thousands for our own tools vans and our own education along with having to replace nearly all our equipment every couple of years because of the limited safe use of harnesses and ropes plus getting the ladders safety checked by an independent company, all at our own expense.

We may not have to sit the same exams and tests as the ones in your trade but we do have to prove to many government companies that we can do our job and work in a safe environment for us, the customer and their property.

I would suggest if you actually want some free help and advice please ask, and I am sure there are many people on here that will give up their time again for free to help you.
If not stop slagging off our trade and consider how you might actually need us in the future.

All the best Ian
Ian
Sunday 17 July 2011 8:36PM
Hey other riggers sorry for the bad language

Good luck for switchover guys

Oops

And girls if you are out there with us.

Ian
steve h
Sunday 17 July 2011 9:33PM
mazbar and kb, i work in the midlands and most of my local transmitters have switched over. just had a very quiet week , as you say an aerial falling down or leaking water will still be good enough to work whereas in the past it would have resulted in a job. plus add in the fact that people havent got the money to spend. things not looking too bright. worst week in 20 years to be honest
KB Aerials Sheffield
Sunday 17 July 2011 11:02PM
Steve H - looks like were all moving to the canary islands to help all the ex pats get Sky tv!
ian
Monday 18 July 2011 7:03PM
steve and KB

I talk to all the local aerial suppliers trade shops down here and they say they have never seen things this quiet either.

No body buying stock from them means there is no work.

Dreading the switchover here

also does not help with the offers that sky and virgin are doing to compete with each other.

Ian
mark winters
Monday 18 July 2011 7:21PM
where are you ian ??



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