Freeview reception - all about aerials

Your ability to receive all the Freeview transmissions depends on the suitability of aerial: the design style, "group" and its physical location.

Your ability to receive all the Freeview transmissions depends
Your ability of receive all the Freeview transmissions depends on the suitability of aerial
  • the design style,
  • the "group", and
  • its physical location.

Standard type - Yagi aerial



The standard type of TV aerial is known as the Yagi aerial. It is mounted on a pole, and consists of a rod with a reflector (shown green) at the back and many spiky elements (in grey) at the front. The connecting cable connects to the element nearest the reflector, known as the driver (shown in blue).

These Yagi aerials are directional and so pick up signals best from a transmitter that the rod points towards. The more elements the aerial has, the better it picks up a signal and becomes more directional.

A standard-type aerial is all that is required for analogue TV reception in most places. These antennae have between 10 and 18 elements and a single reflector. These are not recommended for new installations for good digital television reception, but will more often than not function perfectly in good reception areas.

Typically these aerials are designed to receive only some transmission frequencies - see "groups" below.

Digital High Gain



These aerials are designed for poor digital reception areas, and have two reflectors. For maximum signal strength, some digital high gain aerials have up to 100 elements. A more expensive aerial is only required where the signal strength is low, but can often provide Freeview reception where it might otherwise be impossible.

The CAI (that represents aerial installers) has four standards for digital TV aerials. The highest standard "1" is for homes on the fringes of coverage areas, intermediate standard "2" is suitable for use within the coverage area; minimum standard "3" is for good coverage conditions. These aerials can be either wideband, or receive only selected frequencies - see "groups" below.

Grid



Grid aerials have been used to improve analogue reception in poor reception areas. They are generally unsuitable for Freeview reception, however some installations may work. Otherwise replace with a digital high gain Yagi aerial.

Indoor

Indoor aerials are generally not suitable for Freeview reception. In areas of good signal strength it is often possible to receive some transmissions.

Loft mounted

Loft mounted arrivals are not generally recommended for Freeview reception, as the roof tiles and plumbing will degrade the signal. Some compensation for this loss of signal can be made by using satellite-grade cable to connect the set top box to the aerial.

Positioning

The best position for a TV aerial is mounted outdoors, as high from the ground as possible, pointing directly at the transmitter. The signal can be blocked by hills and tall buildings. It should be positioned away from any other aerials.

Horizontal or vertical?

The transmitter will either use vertical mode which requires the elements of your aerial to be up-down, or horizontal mode which requires them to be level with the ground.

Groups

Both analogue and digital television is transmitted the same group of transmission frequencies (known as channel 21 through to 68). A coloured marking on the aerial shows the group.



To create the best possible analogue picture, TV transmissions from adjacent transmitters have been designated to several different groups of frequencies. By using an aerial that receives only the channels in the correct group, the analogue picture can be kept free from interference.

To receive Freeview transmissions from the same transmitter it has been sometimes necessary to use frequencies that are not part of the transmitter's normal group. When this has occurred, the aerial will need to be replaced with a "wideband" aerial (also known as group W) - one that covers every group.

Published on 19th Dec 2005 at 18:47:22 by Brian Butterworth

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WHAT DIRECTION DO IPOINT MY AERIAL TO PICK UP WINTERHILL TRANSMISSION. MY POSTCODE IS CH439QX
Posted by PHILIP OWENS (1 post) on Saturday 9 January 2010 2:32PM GB
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Philip : Just put your postcode into the box at the top of this page and it will tell you precisely + the distance from your house to the transmitter (roughly north east from Chester).
Posted by Peter (11 posts) on Saturday 9 January 2010 5:34PM GB
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actally nearer ENE Philip having checked

Peter (map)
Posted by Peter (11 posts) on Saturday 9 January 2010 5:36PM GB
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From the same digital aerial pointed at Winter Hill my TV's are fine but my new DVD recorder only tunes in to Wales....please help (map)
Posted by Ron Carroll (1 post) on Sunday 10 January 2010 6:05AM GB
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Ron, leave your DVD aerial disconnected until just before CH54 this will prevent tuning into welsh channels but will tune in Winter Hill as these start at CH54.
Posted by Iain Davies (246 posts) on Sunday 10 January 2010 12:04PM GB
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Ron Carroll- If you are having difficulties putting the aerial in at the precise moment, another alternative would be to check if your DVD gives you the option to either manually rescan or reshuffle the channels.

If reshuffling, you should find the English channels in the 800's. If you need to manually rescan, clear the list first, then manually tune in, as per the DVD instruction book.
Posted by LutonFan (51 posts) on Wednesday 13 January 2010 7:05PM GB
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I have just moved to a new house, we have the aerial fixed to the back wall about 15 ft up. The main TV and the TV in the back bedroom both have cable meeting in a small box , and one wire goes to the aerial.The bedroom tv is fine as is the freeview, lounge tv has freeview, and a least once a day it comes up with channel not tuned, and I have to go through auto retune.
I have just brought a tv for the front bedroom, can I just add another cable to the box and run it round to the front?
I am 34km from the redbridge transmitter. (map)
Posted by Alta (1 post) on Saturday 16 January 2010 11:39AM GB
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why are digital transmission powers so low compared with analog? Digital transmission has better noise immunity but reception of digital (freeview) would be far better and not at the lower limit of reception if the transmitted power were higher. (map)
Posted by M Perini (1 post) on Sunday 17 January 2010 7:05PM GB
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I live in a communal system controlled area but need a freeview for my room so bought a philips freeview box but has tried several indoor ariel but none seem to be working, does anyone has an idea of the particular ariel i need for this freeview box?
Posted by ogosta (1 post) on Tuesday 19 January 2010 2:08AM GB
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Alta - Hi, You'll need a two way splitter and another cable run from either the loft space or the aerial's pole... If you're 34km from your nearest Freeview transmitter the reception may be unreliable, look at your other transmitter options. Just remember splitting a signal the way described above drops a signal by 4db (Half the power) You may lose the signal all together given your distance from the transmitter...
Posted by Jordy (1,570 posts) on Tuesday 19 January 2010 10:24PM GB
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ogosta - Could you supply a post code to receive the best help...
Posted by Jordy (1,570 posts) on Tuesday 19 January 2010 10:25PM GB
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M Perini - It's nonsense to describe "digital signals" as lower powered compared to analogue. Analogue is a tenth the power of a digital signal. It's true that compared to the output of a typical transmitter, 500kw analogue then the digital is of a lower output or effective radiated power. This is due to spectrum limitations, available frequencies and the fact that band 4 is full to capacity. This is why the digital switchover is taking place to up the power of the digital multiplexs and to rid the band of the existing analogue channels...
Posted by Jordy (1,570 posts) on Tuesday 19 January 2010 10:30PM GB
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Please can you tell me how many channels I will receive when the change over, at the moment on freeview I can only get 4 channels with my analogue aerial. Will I need another aerial? to get more channels. My post code is BA2 3LF and I live in Oldfield Park Bath.
Peter Knott. (map)
Posted by Peter Knott (1 post) on Wednesday 20 January 2010 7:40PM GB
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i've just run cables from my loft aerial to two bedrooms via a splitter,to a digital tv and an analogue tv.when connected, the digital tv's reception is very poor and gets picture breakup as well as not being able to receive bbc1,2,itv,channel4or5.when digital tv is set to analogue it picks up all above channels.When using an old indoor analogue aerial i can pick up all digital and analogue channels,i don't want to use this method as it looks untidy,plus i've got all the cables in place.any ideas? thanks.
Posted by dave (1 post) on Thursday 21 January 2010 1:00PM GB
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dave:if you connect the loft aerial direct to the digital tv (no splitter in place) is the reception ok? If it is you have 2 choices -use a powered splitter as the signal is not strong enough to split or fit a second aerial for the analogue tv (possibly a cheaper option.)If reception is still poor on digital tv when aerial is fed direct you will need to try repositioning the aerial for stronger reception or consider mounting it outside.
Posted by KMJ,Derby (73 posts) on Thursday 21 January 2010 3:52PM GB
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Hi,
I've recently moved into a new house with a mast aerial that seems to point towards my local freeview transmitter at Crystal Palace.
I can receive analog channels with reasonable clarity, yet I cannot get a freeview signal.
Is the problem likely to be the aerial?

Your help is appreciated. (map)
Posted by Maurice (1 post) on Friday 22 January 2010 9:23PM GB
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Marice : Your TV aerial should be pointing south-southeast toward the transmitter at Crystal Palace (21km away) , if so you should be able to receive Freeview with your box using a Group A aerial positioned horizontally.
Posted by Pete (245 posts) on Friday 22 January 2010 9:48PM GB
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I receive my Freeview from Caldbeck, as I live on the Mull of Galloway SW Scotland I purchased a high gain wide band aerial and after changeover received all channels except COM 6 (Ch29). On doing some research I determined that the wide band was pulling in transmissions from all over the place and maybe interfering with COM6, so I purchased a Group A high gain and masthead amplifier and found I could now receive COM6 (Ch29). But my joy was short lived as around 4pm every day I lose all transmissions from COM6 (Yesterday, Film 4 etc,). Why is this happening, what is blocking COM6 at this time of day, I also find reception is not very good in the morning as well. As I can get a brilliant picture and sound during the middle part of the day something is obviously blocking transmissions at the other times. (map)
Posted by P. Miller (8 posts) on Saturday 23 January 2010 5:12PM GB
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i bought a labgear digital satellite receiver .can get all bbc1 channels and itv channels but unable to get bbc2 or channel 5 any idea what i need to do. did a auto search to install.this is all i can get help (map)
Posted by liz.stewart (1 post) on Sunday 24 January 2010 1:30PM GB
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Hi,
Can anyone help, I live in the Colchester area. Until eight months ago I was able receive freeview, but now I can only get 4 channels with my aerial, but the picture is poor. i have retuned the tv it several times. Do I need a new aerial. (map)
Posted by peter (1 post) on Sunday 24 January 2010 4:08PM GB
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As the C/D aerial type is used for Winter Hill and alot of these aerials in the overlap areas are pulling in MUX1 from Moel Y Parc, am I right in saying that there is a possible solution?

As i have posted in previous comments, I am not an aerial expert. Would the affected user be able to upgrade the aerial to a type with more elements, thus making the aerial less likely to pickup these 'rogue' signals?(being more directional to WH) Or would increasing the amount of elements provide 'too strong a signal'?

If this question is illogical or it has been posted elsewhere, apologies.
Posted by LutonFan (51 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 4:14PM GB
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LutonFan: It could work for some people, but only where the angles work just right. For many people Moel Y Parc is "behind" Winter Hill and for others it is at 180 degrees.

It's probably easier (and much cheaper) living with the overlap than trying to "solve" it with a new aerial that might not improve anything.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 5:01PM GB
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peter: Please see the Freeview reception has changed? | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 page for help with that.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 5:02PM GB
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liz.stewart: It could be any number of things, can you check the Freesat reception - all about dishes | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 to ensure the dish is set up correctly?
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 5:04PM GB
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P. Miller: Please can you see the Freeview intermittent interference | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 - there could be any number of things doing this.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 5:07PM GB
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Briantist- That makes sense re my aerial question, thanks for the reply.

Another potentially silly question, could an aerial be made that has reflectors running alongside the elements to as well as the rear?

Probably would not be cost effective, but worth asking the question.
Posted by LutonFan (51 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 5:48PM GB
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LutonFan: You can always try it, I can't see it working myself as the reflectors ensure that the driver has the maximum signal. Yagi aerials always work as well at 180 degrees. See Yagi-Uda antenna
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 24 January 2010 6:00PM GB
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Briantist- Thank you for your reply. I have had confirmation that this probably would not work.

Logically, I assumed that as the reflector doubled as a deflector at the rear of the aerial, the same principle would apply at the side.

However, the Yagi-Uda antenna site was an interesting read,(albeit I understood about 10% of the content!)



Posted by LutonFan (51 posts) on Tuesday 26 January 2010 11:42PM GB
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LutonFan: Ah, there's no deflection involved. There's some great diagrams in that link...
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Wednesday 27 January 2010 7:27AM GB
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Is there any way of getting FREEVIEW at post code BN7 2RD....Thanks Paul (map)
Posted by Paul Carleton (1 post) on Friday 29 January 2010 4:03PM, 6 days ago. GB
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Paul Carleton: Find out how to receive Freeview at postcode BN72RD | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 says you can use Heathfield.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Friday 29 January 2010 5:09PM, 6 days ago. GB
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I have just had a Blake DMX10WB TV aerial fitted today and noticed when the fitter had gone (I live in a bungalow and it is low on my chimney)that one one the elements is missing and several are bent - obviously it is a cheap and nasty! I am calling the fitter back tomorrow but in case he tries to blag me, will a missing element and bent elements make any difference? (They don't appear to at the moment but I am peed off at his carelessness). Thanks, Paul
Posted by Paul (2 posts) on Wednesday 3 February 2010 10:03PM, 3 days ago. GB
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Paul: Yes, any missing and bent parts of the aerial will reduce the amount it works. ALL parts of the aerial must be complete and not "bent".
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Thursday 4 February 2010 8:27AM, 3 days ago. GB
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Many thanks Brian! Paul (map)
Posted by Paul (2 posts) on Thursday 4 February 2010 8:38AM, 3 days ago. GB
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Forgive the daft question but here goes - I have a Sagem freeview box which worked fine untill the National reinstallation last year, now the picture breaks up all the time though I do get 50 channels ! My aeriel is High gain class 2 and is pointing towards Hannington as are 1/2 the other aerials in the street, the other 1/2 point towards Oxford. I rang up the helpline and they said the aeriel should be moved to point to Oxford but I have checked with all others that point towards Hannington and their freeview is great. So, climb the roof and move the aerial or get a new freeview box ? My postcode is NN13 6ER. Thanks for your help (map)
Posted by Jon Bowd (3 posts) on Thursday 4 February 2010 9:37PM, 2 days ago. GB
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Jon Bowd: If you had good reception before the retune in September 2009 you should have continued to do so afterwards as the transmitters did not change power or frequency.It is likely that your freeview box found weak signals first and stored the channels then ignored stronger signals found later in the scan.Are you sure that you are receiving from Hannington?-this transmitter is in the same direction as Oxford (south) from your location so the aerial would not need moving to receive Oxford in that case. Aerials pointing in a different direction are likely to be directed at Sandy Heath which might not give as strong a signal as Oxford on freeview.As you can receive several transmitters in your area (even more after switchover) a freeview box with a manual tuning option is essential!
Posted by KMJ,Derby (73 posts) on Friday 5 February 2010 12:58AM, 2 days ago. GB
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Thanks KMJ, I think I'm tuned to Hannington as the helpline said that as I received Meridian ITV Hannington was the only one that did that - strange as I used to receive central but now understand that central was replaced by Meridian regardless of transmitter. Analoge reception is great. time for a new box then ! (map)
Posted by Jon Bowd (3 posts) on Friday 5 February 2010 9:09AM, 2 days ago. GB
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Jon Bowd:Following a shuffle of local news areas ITV1 now broadcasts the same news service from Hannington and Oxford.It sounds like your aerial is already directed at Oxford so it is just a matter of tuning to the Oxford muxes!
Posted by KMJ,Derby (73 posts) on Friday 5 February 2010 10:07AM, 2 days ago. GB
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KMJ: thanks once again, i'm off to get a new box (map)
Posted by Jon Bowd (3 posts) on Friday 5 February 2010 10:13AM, 2 days ago. GB
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Currently no digital channels at all have signals. About Tuesday 2nd signals OK only after 12 noon.
On 3rd, 4th and 5th (today) no signals.

Please tell me why.

We usually get 95% signal strength. (map)
Posted by Dr L J Hope (1 post) on Friday 5 February 2010 11:02AM, 2 days ago. GB
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Dr L J Hope: There is work going on the Mendip transmitter, but this should normally only be happening during office hours, please see the Freeview on Mendip TV transmitter | ukfree.tv - independent digital TV + switchover advice, since 2002 page for more.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Sunday 7 February 2010 11:48AM, 1 days ago. GB
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We have a problem receiving BBC 1 & BBC2; we have a high gain aerial level 1 in the loft, our transmitter is Bilsdale, any clues?? Our signal strength is only 7 on the BBC sites but 10 on everything else?
(map)
Posted by martin (1 post) on Monday 8 February 2010 1:05PM, 12 hours ago. GB
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martin: The best thing you could do is move the aerial to the roof.
Posted by Briantist (17,034 posts) on Monday 8 February 2010 1:10PM, 11 hours ago. GB
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