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Val IrelandThursday 19 April 2012 3:56PM
I'm a bit confused - is SKY's Free to Air the same as Free Sat?M
mr t howesSunday 29 April 2012 10:00AM
i have free-sat and sky and will have aerial fitted for free view but i want to get rid of sky .can i use the sky dish to get Europe f.t.a and have that and my free view fitted in to one receiver to record all channelsM
mr t howesSunday 29 April 2012 10:01AM
i have free-sat and sky and will have aerial fitted for free view but i want to get rid of sky .can i use the sky dish to get Europe f.t.a and have that and my free view fitted in to one receiver to record all channelsB
BrainsurgeonMonday 7 May 2012 6:03PM
I've been told that after one year with sky you can then cancel and they don't take the sky+HD box back, leaving you with free sat and all the usual functions that the box gives you like pause, record, freesat radio, etc. Can anyone confirm or clarify this? ThanksVal Ireland: No, they are different. Thus the "Freesat" and "fSfS" buttons above!!! A
alan bettsSaturday 9 June 2012 12:49PM
i enjoy my freesat very much but can u tell me if theres any chance of recieving any more film channels like movies 24 im always watching zone horror that channel is brilliant but film 4 is ok but we need better films and better chioces to watch thankyoualan betts: It seems that most film channels are subscription, so I don't think there will be any more channels soon... but you never know. V
Vin RobertsWednesday 15 August 2012 5:26PM
Stoke-on-trent Hi Briantist, bit naive here even though lots of info on your part;. I pay a Sky sub,and have the basic set-up+recorder(no HD)been with them for 4 years,seriously considering closing with them(Sky) Will miss the Documentries, but as an OAP,( the poorer variety !)finance is the problem(ain't it always ?) What in your opinion is my best alternative if I unsubscribe ? Many thanks J
jb38Wednesday 15 August 2012 5:43PM
Vin Roberts: I realise you addressed the question to Briantist but if I could just reply, the only option you have when you cancel your subscription is to use the Sky+ box as an ordinary Sky "free to view" device, this of course will NOT allow the recording / playback side to operate, as Sky will disable it at the same time as your access to Sky dedicated programmes.
The only option you then have "if" you want to be able to record programme is to purchase a Freesat twin tuner PVR as Freesat devices are 100% compatible with Sky dishes, and with the PVR referred to requiring twin input feeds such as you will already have "if" you are referring to a Sky+ box when you mention recording.
If you do not wish the record anything then a standard Freesat box only requires one feed from the dish. J
jb38Wednesday 15 August 2012 5:58PM
Vin Roberts: Meant also to add, that you can easily find out what channels you will (or will not) be able to view when you cancel your subscription by simply removing your Sky card and running through them, a few exceptions exist like Sony TV (157) which although free is encrypted and requires the card inserted to view it. V
Vin RobertsThursday 16 August 2012 12:47PM
Stoke-on-trent Hello jb38, thank you for your reply and subsequent information.As is fairly standard these days I have of course Freeview 'built in', but have no info or have needed any, on FreeSat, which appears to me to be rather better ?? (right or wrong) ? Now!,well I'm thinking along those lines should I end my contract with Sky. It is not often that I use the reording side ,but it is nice to have the facility, and I appreciate your info re Freeat Twin tuner PVR. Again many thanks for your help J
jb38Thursday 16 August 2012 5:26PM
Vin Roberts: Well the problem is, that if you end your contract with Sky and your box is a Sky+ version? then that's the end of your recording / play back facilities.
Of course I only say this on the assumption that you are indeed using a Sky+ box by you having referred to a recorder, but I fully appreciate that you could simply be referring to an external recorder coupled to the Sky box via a scart lead, and should that be the case then obviously if you purchased a much less costly standard Freesat (non recordable) box then your recorder could still be used with that in exactly the same way as is presently done with your Sky box.
I will say though, that the twin tuner Freesat PVR gives you the maximum flexibility of all by enabling you to record a programme on one channel whilst you are viewing a different programme on a second channel, or alternatively record two different channels at the same time plus on occasions (as exclusions apply) view a different programme from either being recorded. (i.e: programme would have to be on the same transponder / polarity as one being recorded)
As far as Freeview is concerned, Sutton Coldfield is indicated as providing good reception, and of course with that system you can also have twin tuner Freeview PVR which operates in a similar fashion to the Freesat types described, but though if you are the type that demands glitch free reception 24/7 all the year round then only Freesat can guarantee that for virtually 99.9% of the time.
Just a little point to note though, if you are using a normal Sky box and NOT a Sky+ type than your dishes LNB might only be a single output type, and so if a twin tuner Freesat PVR was used the LNB would require to be changed to a dual or quad type and an additional cable run from it as twin tuner Freesat devices require twin inputs, the blocks costing around £10.00 or so from numerous e-bay outlets.
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Vin RobertsFriday 17 August 2012 11:34AM
Hi again jb38, apologies for the delay. All your remarks duly noted.First of all the 'box' in question is indeed a Sky+ 350 gb(I think)So all in all I assume , in my naivety, that the present dish will have LNB 1 and 2 fitted , and the relevant FreeSat PVR wil be the 'way to go'with no great, if any, modification ! Yes, as you suggest,naturally, I prefer 'glich free reception'(is there such a thing )? Thanks againJ
jb38Friday 17 August 2012 9:16PM
Vin Roberts: Yes, you are quite correct in what you have said, insomuch that a Freesat PVR will simply use the two feeds from the dish that are presently used by the Sky+ box and with no modifications whatsoever being required, as Sky a Freesat are 100% compatible with each other in this respect.
As far as glitch free reception is concerned, nothing can really beat reception via satellite as its about on par with the best of cable TV, because as you will no doubt already know (by having been a Sky user) that about the only time a problem is ever experienced is usually during a very heavy thundery down pour, ironically Freeview being relatively unaffected by this type of situation, one of the few it isn't though!
I would think along the lines of having a look at the Humax range of Freesat PVR's, as although admittedly they are slightly more expensive you basically get what you pay for, plus they have excellent back up facilities via the web.V
Vin RobertsSaturday 18 August 2012 9:11PM
jb38, pleased I have got things about right re the dish and PVR,.. Now as you so rightly say,' think along the lines of taking a look at the Humax range of Freesat PVRs' That is exactly what I have been doing, but here seems to be a train of thought that Humax are about to make the FT 2 , obsolete and move on to other models ?? .Other than that , yes,I do have leanings to that model , to fill the gap. By the way, I would ask , what use , if any, can the replaced Sky+ box be used for? Scrap ??? J
jb38Monday 20 August 2012 12:08AM
Vin Roberts: Although technology is constantly evolving you have nothing to worry about if thinking about purchasing one of these Humax Freesat PVR devices, as a great deal of assumptions and general scaremongering always goes on in these forums basically from people with "bees in their bonnets" about one thing or another.
As far as a redundant+ Sky box is concerned, it can always be used as a standard Sky box as it in effect reverts to just that without a subscription being in force, although "if" you wanted to use it in another room then it would require its own feed (single) from the dish, and so if your LNB is only of the two outlet port type then the LNB would require to be changed to a Quad block and this would leave one outlet spare in case of emergencies like for instance one of the outlets failing, as all outputs are independent of each other and so the "F" connector would only require to be swapped over to the spare port.
Of course that is only if its a twin output block in the first place, as many Sky engineers fitted quad blocks as standard as the price difference is minimal between the two types. (complete LNB kit obtainable for around £10.00 or so from a number of e-bay outlets)
Have a look up at where the coax cables enter the LNB, as you "might" see two outlet ports unused. V
vin robertsTuesday 21 August 2012 11:56AM
Hello jb38, yet again, thanks for your info.
Indeed , I seem to have learned quite a lot in a fairly short time , thanks to your tutoring. Have never looked, or needed, to examine the dish and LNB's, but understand the need for a quad as opposed to the twin block (must take a 'peep') if I require an extra in a spare room.. Finally, may I once more offer my sincere thanks for your great help in 'putting me wise' to the ways of 'feed' etc,The Humax will certainly be the way to. Best wishes .Vin Roberts J
jb38Tuesday 21 August 2012 5:05PM
vin roberts: Many thanks for your kind comments! and I am pleased to have been of assistance, as I fully appreciate that the various systems in use can on occasions appear to be a bit of a mystery to anyone not acquaint with them, albeit that in reality they are all very similar in certain respects.
By the way, one of my own three Humax devices is a Foxsat HDR (320Gb) and which has been in constant use for nearly three years now, and with the only problem that's ever experienced with it now and again being the well known one of the remote control (actual control not the box) locking up, cured by simply lifting the end of one of the batteries, pressing any button on the remote to discharge the offending component, then pushing the battery down again.
All equipment can suffer from the odd problem now and again, but with Humax devices its far less frequent than with most others, plus there is always plenty of assistance around from various sources including the excellent Humax forum, and where obviously advice / assistance is dedicated purely to Humax devices.
Best Regards / jb.
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vin robertsTuesday 21 August 2012 7:11PM
jb38, Yet more thanks to you for the vote of confidence in Humax. They are an unknown quantity with me,. I am aware that I may or may not be as 'lucky'? as yourself, but, that's life..As for the remote battery 'hiccup', yes, I find that rolling the AAA's does the trick , sometimes too.. Perhaps to do with slight 'oxidising' on the contacts !
If indeed I require further help, at least (with your indulgence) I will know where to come ! Again, many thanks ,and best wishes
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jasMonday 29 October 2012 2:52PM
hi I have a sky box but do not pay any subscription, I want to know how I can re-point my dish to the right place cos I had to remove it while painting the Roof rafters..
any advise most welcome..D
David Noble-NesbittThursday 6 December 2012 2:11PM
Hi,
I have two standard sky boxes (Not Sky +) upstairs in the bedrooms. I purchased the Sky viewing cards and get the standard programmes.
If I leave Sky and take up the Talk Talk offer of a freeview HD box (which will have to be connected to my aerial), will I still be able to use my Sky boxes as they are connected up to the satellite dish. J
jb38Thursday 6 December 2012 2:38PM
David Noble-Nesbitt: Yes! as the only common connection between both systems will be your TV, because the Sky boxes will be using the scart connections on your TV and with the Freeview HD box being coupled into the TV using an HDMI lead, this presuming that your TV has an HDMI socket hence why you are after the HD box from Talk Talk, as a scart connection only allows SD.
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shamaMonday 21 January 2013 6:00AM
Hi there,I've been with sky since 2009. and I want to leave asap.I have sky.plus box, and it'd really for my son,if I cancel my son watches these can u help if I get freesat?or the other one? HR watches Disney channel,nick,boomerang,kix,watch,gold,Nat.geo,fhistory,discovery.thanx if you.can reply.G
GemqueenWednesday 20 March 2013 4:17PM
I am very confused... (it doesnt take much)!! I have a standard box from sky (no recording facilities) and neither do i need it. I have no outside arial.. I live in a house converted into separate flats... as my financial standing has changed dramatically, and I have been with sky for over 6yrs, I am thinking that I should stop my subscription and use my standard box to view channels.. My only worry is what channels I will not be able to pick up, and what the cost implication will be with sky if any? Is this the best recourse to take or should i go the freeview route? Can any1 assist a doddery ol' woman in this query??? :).G
GemqueenThursday 21 March 2013 7:08PM
Dear Briantist,
Thank you very much for your reply. Most appreciated.. Obviously I won't get sky1, sky atlantic etc or my beloved CI channels.. but.. it's not life threatening! Thanks again Briantist. Now off the give Sky the good news! ;)H
HazelwoodMonday 8 April 2013 6:44PM
Hi, I am in France, I have a basic sky box and dish, basic viewing card came with sky box, no subscription paid, I don't seam to have many channels, how can I get more?
I don't want to upgrade to Sky +.
Thanks.
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